Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. This week, we have two stories, both about a father and their kid. This first one comes from a guy named Mike and his daughter Nina. Nina is the one who reached out originally, mostly to talk about the house that her father Mike currently lives in. Nina always felt uneasy and creeped out in this house.
As soon as her dad moved in after her parents split up, But every time she brought this up, Mike would just brush it off. That being said, if you've ever been in the home of a recently divorced father, you'd know there are plenty of reasons to feel uneasy and creeped out, none of them necessarily paranormal. And I say that with lots of personal experience.
Mike always insisted that the house was not haunted, but eventually the truth came out and Nina learned the full story, which is what you're about to hear. After that, we have one more story about a guy named Grayson reconnecting with his father who he barely knew and hearing a very strange story. This episode is titled Fatherhood and You're Listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby?
Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue with. I'm worried about all the science. Up in the sky. It's almost frustrating that it's happening.
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Chapter 2: What unsettling experiences did Nina have in her father's house?
Everybody moves back into the light, even if it takes them a minute.
My name is Mike. I live in Austin, Texas. I'm 60 years old. I'm a musician. And I grew up in North Texas, just north of Dallas. Denton, Texas is where I'm from. And I got two kids, Nina, who you'll hear from, and my son, Nate. He's a lawyer up in Dallas. As I grew up, my dad was an Air Force pilot. He flew B-52s in Vietnam. And then my mom was a stay-at-home mom. We always grew up in church.
We were pretty involved in the Lutheran church when I was growing up. A big family, you know, we were right up in the front pew and we always knew the pastors real well. We would clean up the church after services and volunteer for things. And, you know, I wouldn't say we were super religious, but we went to church. I guess that's what everybody did back then. You went to church.
Chapter 3: How did Mike react to Nina's fears about the house?
And so I had a You know, I was an altar boy when I was a kid, and I went to catechism and vacation Bible school and made crafts in the summertime, did all that sort of stuff. So yeah, it was always kind of a part of our life growing up. And then as we got older, you know, I was a musician. We were playing on Saturday nights till late, so I wasn't getting up early and going to church much.
And then with my kids, my wife was, I mean, I would say agnostic, but she would say atheist, which I think is, you know, that's really going all the way. With my kids, with Nina and Nate, we didn't really push that. And I thought, well, they'll figure that out if they want to later. Well, I was about 25. I'd just gotten married to Claudia and we lived in Dallas.
And after we got married, we moved into a tiny wood frame house in Farmers Branch, Texas, which is in Dallas, really. It's right off of I-35. It was really just a nothings, 50s kind of house. Two bedroom, wood floor, chain link fence. That house had some strange things that went on in it. So we had just moved in, we weren't in there that long.
And I woke up in the middle of the night and I was facing the wall, you know, I was in bed, kind of facing the wall, it was maybe three feet away. And I saw a little, kind of like a home movie projector being projected onto the wall, a home movie of a little dog running around in our backyard back there. It was a projection of a home movie. So it was the whole rectangle or square.
I guess it was rectangle. I can't remember exactly. But we used to watch a lot of home movies when we were growing up. People took home movies. And you'd watch them on a projector or a slide projector. And so I was used to seeing that. So this was just like seeing a projected home movie on the wall. And it was the full picture of the little dog in the backyard. You saw the whole thing.
And the dog was just running around the backyard. It was a little kind of like a white and brown, kind of like a cocker spaniel maybe type dog. And it was just running around the backyard. And that's all it was. wasn't anything particularly spooky or it was just definitely unusual for waking up and seeing it on the wall. There was no projector in the room or anything.
And there was no, you know, there was no way for anything to have made that image on the wall. Because I can even see it now in my mind of the little dog running around And you could see the chain link fence in the movie. It looked like a pastime from like the 60s. And this was, you know, 90, 91. I didn't know the dog. We didn't have a dog.
You know, at the time I thought, well, this must be from someone that lived here at the house before us. So I woke Claudia up. And of course, by the time she woke up or even knew what I was talking about, it was gone. I was a musician back then, like I am now, and so your shows would get done at maybe 1.30 or 2 in the morning.
And my wife worked a day job, so when I got home at night, it would just be me, and maybe she would be asleep and I might sit in the living room for a little bit. And I used to see these little orbs of light in the hallway. I mean, this was a very small house. When I say hallway, I mean basically just a meeting place where the two bedrooms and the bathroom door met.
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Chapter 4: What paranormal events occurred in Mike's home?
And I said aloud, I said, ugh, wish the dishwasher would work. And all of a sudden, it came on. It came on right then, and it had never come on the whole year I'd been here or whatever. And I thought, well, did I switch with my hand? What happened? But it came on as soon as I said, boy, I wish the dishwasher would work. And it came on. It started working right then.
When that happened, I thought, okay, that's weird, right? Like, that's really weird. out of all the seconds of the day I've been in this house and the time that I said that, and then it came on. But of course, it's just an isolated thing. When you're in the living room, the kitchen has some frosted glass windows that separate the living room from the kitchen.
And if you were in the living room, you would see shadows of someone walking through the kitchen. If the light was on in the kitchen, sometimes you would see a shadow of someone moving through the kitchen. And that happened quite frequently. Also about that time, Nina came over with her dog. In the office where I sleep, she wouldn't go in there. She said, that room is creepy.
She goes, I'm not going in there. And the dog wouldn't go in there. Couldn't get the dog to go in that room either, which was strange. But Nina always remembers that. And I remember that too. The things that started happening started happening, I guess, right away in that room.
I mean, the first thing I noticed when I went to sleep in that room, and we all know the sounds of like when a house settles or an old house, the walls will creak or you'll hear sounds. Of course, I was used to all that, but I would hear these sounds in the walls, little knocks in the walls. I just didn't think anything of it, but I thought, well, this is just a house.
Then after a while, I noticed, because I would sleep on my side, and I noticed the knocks are only coming from the wall behind me. And then I started thinking about it. I thought, well, what if I flip over real quick? And I would flip over real quick, and it would change, and it would always be behind me. Then the knocking would start at the wall behind me.
And I did that little test for, I don't know, months. I would flip and just see if the knocking would flip to the other wall. And it always did. And sometimes the knocking was fairly loud. What it also liked to do is right when you were falling asleep, it would knock really loud and wake you up.
So like right when you were about to totally drift off into sleep, it would really hit hard and wake you up, which I always thought was kind of funny in a way. You know, I thought it was kind of like a little trickster or something like fooling with you. And sometimes it would get disturbingly loud. I mean, There were a few times where I thought, okay, I'm sleeping with the lights on.
This is getting weird, and I don't have time to mess with this. I need to go to sleep, and this is a little weird. So I would turn the light on to go to sleep. And so since it was always to my back, not all the time, but occasionally I would feel like someone was standing behind me next to the bed, to my back. I sensed it. I just felt it.
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Chapter 5: What was the significance of the X found in the carpet?
I mean, I was just waiting for something. If something happened, then I would figure it out at that point.
You gasped at me into thinking it wasn't haunted, so I thought I was crazy.
Yeah.
I don't know. I just said, no, it's fine.
While you're seeing ghosts in the kitchen and everywhere.
Well, but nothing really happened to you that I knew. I mean, I figured you would just say something if something really creepy happened.
Well, I'd never said anything because I thought I was crazy because you told me for 10 years that it wasn't haunted.
I guess. It's fine. And that was surprising to me because, well, number one, it confirmed really it was the only person that had confirmed what had happened, really. And then when you said you saw the lady that I'd kind of seen, just really... In my mind's eye, I'd never seen a ghost. But you had said you saw, like, a ghost.
What does that mean, you saw her in your mind's eye? I don't even get that.
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