Griffin on the Blue Jays' trade deadline outlook, the clubhouse atmosphere and Guerrero Jr.'s power outage
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All right, Jay's off today, back in action tomorrow. Here's our good friend Richard Griffin from Griffsthepitch.com joining us here on Overdrive. How you doing, Griff?
Doing great, Hayes and Jonas. How are you guys?
We're doing very well. We just were talking about the Gosman clip. He was on Mike Wilner's podcast and saying that the mood in the clubhouse is different this year. Is that simply because of wins and losses? I mean, are you at all surprised by that comment? How do you respond to that?
Not surprised at all, and it's something that's probably a positive for Ross Atkins and John Schneider to learn, or to learn firsthand, because there's no way when you're losing, when your big guy hasn't hit a home run at home all year, when you can't come back from when you're four runs down, five runs down, you learn that the clubhouse only reacted to the wins last year and they had a bunch of mentors who were participating in Max Scherzer they had guys that were out there that were doing well when those same guys aren't doing well and they're the key to the spirit in your club George Spring a perfect example It's kind of hard to have him being the gung-ho guy in the clubhouse when he's struggling to put numbers together that are even close to what he did last year.
Why do teammates say the Blue Jays clubhouse mood feels different this year?
Yeah, exactly. Again, I was all in on the good vibes last year. It was a lot of fun to believe. And I do think you've got to give credit to Shapiro and Atkins to an extent. By all accounts, they've done a great job with Dunedin. They've done a great job of trying to include the families and make everyone feel happy and comfortable here. It doesn't change the work they've done, but ultimately what this proves is you can do everything you want away from the field. You can build the most perfect organization in professional sports. If you're 10 games under 500, it's pretty far down the list of priorities for people.
Yeah, there were a couple of key clues to the fact that this would not be the same type of clubhouse at spring training and as opening day arrived. You had Max Scherzer, whose daughter sent a letter to get him a job with the Blue Jays. And that sounds all so sweet and good, and he's done at 42 years old. But she should be agent of the year. They should have an awards banquet for her. Jose Barrios, who's still got them on the hook for a $24 million player option for the next two years. I mean, I haven't heard his name mentioned at all since spring training. And it wouldn't surprise me if they were trying to piss him off so much that he wanted out. Like, who would opt out on a deal when you haven't thrown a full season?
You haven't thrown a season. And now they've got a 24 million plus 24 million player option. And I don't think that that is out of the question that they're trying to force his hand and get him to leave. And then the other one is Shane Bieber, who everyone thought, what a feel-good story. He's taking the player option because he loves it here. He took the player option because he wouldn't have been able to pass a physical in any other camp.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly.
Well, Griff, we were talking about Chris Bassett, and Hayes made a good point. It was kind of foreseeable that this would happen. He would struggle this year. Obviously, he had the great postseason. But, I mean, how do you handle a situation when a guy has that much clubhouse value, but you're worried about the on-field product? Because Kevin Gosman talked about how influential he was in the clubhouse, but obviously there was a downside coming. Was this just a situation with Bassett in particular that they couldn't avoid?
I think it was a preview of what's going on there now with all those veteran pitchers. They're gonna have to move on. Part of that is the trade deadline where I could see them. And if fans are looking for return on investment,
How has George Springer’s slump and role change affected clubhouse leadership?
when the Jays deal Springer and Gosman and Bieber and maybe Hoffman, Varshow, when they deal all of these guys, don't look for return on investment. That's advice to the fans, because the Jays are trying to cut payroll.
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