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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hop on board the Coffinwood Express for hour two. Get your own cart and let's get boogieing. I have to address something. A guy just sent me a tweet, and he said, O-Dog loved the show, but he said, you've got to be a stronger association union brother when it comes to Major League Baseball and stand by their players. MLB has their strongest sports association.
Telling them to bend the knee doesn't help them. I'm not telling them to do anything. All I'm telling them is if they want to sit there like we did and say, we're not accepting a salary cap, just not going to happen. We sat out a year and lost a billion dollars, and then guess what we accepted? A salary cap. And do you think these guys don't have a good life?
You just talked about how much money is involved in hockey. Do they not have a good life? Is it not reasonable? That's all I'm saying if I had any advice to Major League Baseball players. Figure out what's reasonable. You might have to give up on something. There's got to be some give and take.
But you're not going to sit there and tell the owners that you can't have a salary cap because they ultimately decide what the hell you're going to do. And if they want a cap, they're going to get a cap.
Yeah, and at people's expense, that's the difference. They will still own the team for the most part long after your career is over, the people that are fighting for it. So I think my advice, having gone through it several times, would say have an open mind. Be open.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Mike Johnson provide on the Stanley Cup Final?
Instead of closed and says we're not accepting this, this, or this, have an open mind and try and get to a common ground The owners know they're going to have to give something up. They're going to have to give, you know, there's got to be some movement from both sides to get it done. I just, if I had to do it all over again, that's the thing I would say.
Let's find common ground so that we can get this done a lot sooner so people can get on with their lives and grow the sport.
And the most important thing, let's do it not for the owners or the players, but for the fans so they don't have to miss a whole season. Agreed. Well, that would be ideal, but they're not going to accept anything in June of 26 when this expires in 27. Players aren't going to do that. But I always said, Hayes, there are pressure points in negotiations.
Everybody knows that who does business, especially big business like this. There's no pressure points right now. Nobody's missing a paycheck. But why not lock yourself in some rooms leading up to it so it gets done and still waiting until the last minute? It's ridiculous. I always wondered that.
Months would go by, just no communication, no talk, and it's like, what good is this doing for anybody? Ridiculous.
Well, I hear you.
But, again, I think ultimately what it's going to come down to is what the owner's
can stomach in the end like if they are dead set on a cap and they are literally willing to shut the league down for a year which is something no one else has ever done and we don't know that no we don't know that until like again in 0405 what were there 28 teams in the league or whatever those owners decided yes betman had them all you know around his finger and said we're we're not budging and what the players you guys would know from experience eventually realized
They're literally like, we'll miss two years, three years, four. We're not playing ever again unless there's a cap. That is the question. The players are not going to bend. The players are going to fight.
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Chapter 3: How are the Maple Leafs handling their head coaching search?
I kind of like the idea of give me a league that's unique and different. The other ones are all the same for the most part. There's some luxury taxes and stuff, but a lot of them, NFL, MLB, NHL, it's a lot of number crunching and bad contract talk and stuff, and it's aggravating. I don't need it. In baseball, it's different. I like the uniqueness of that.
But as for the godfather of lockouts, Gary Bettman, I guess he's speaking to the media in Carolina, and he has said he's had some preliminary talks about a succession plan when he does retire. Bettman's not a young guy. He's been running the show for over 30 years.
And I'm curious when that happens, because there's going to be a different commissioner someday, how many things change in the league. To chat about that, among other things, here's our TSN hockey analyst joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Here's Mike Johnson. How are you doing, Johnny? What's up, fellas? Coming alive, yeah? Gary Berman's doing the presser right behind me here.
Hazy, I hate to disappoint you. I don't think anything's going to change. I mean, different personality, but I don't think a new guy's coming in saying, I envision the world of hockey completely different. I think it would be someone pretty aligned with the way things are going now. And the way things are going right now, regardless of how we got here, are pretty good for the NHL.
Johnny, I want to ask you about the baseball players and their agreement. You're a smart guy. You've been through lockouts. If you had any advice to Major League Baseball players as far as what they should expect and how to approach this, because mine is just to find something reasonable, how you can have a good life.
If you think you're just going to bully anybody, you're not doing it, and you're just going to cost yourself money, what would your advice be? I would echo those sentiments. Listen, we went through it. I was a player up in 04. I remember, you know, in the meetings with you. Oh, and we were we will never play. We will miss two years, five years, 10 years.
We'll shut the league down before we get to a salary cap. And we got through year one, which is already kind of stressful enough. And then we just came apart of the seams because guys were not prepared. to live any further.
And then the cost of doing this, and it's good to do it for future generations, but you also sort of need to take care of yourself and the current generation that you're living in. And if the average career is 3.7 years, you're going to sit out a year and a half of those and flush yourself out. And if you might make, you know, instead of making in the NHL $4 million, you're going to get zero.
And, you know, you just can't afford to lose that kind of money. And baseball, I mean, the numbers are so staggering, you know, you're missing 20, $25 million. Yeah. I guess if you baseball has a very principled stance, they feel like they're the strongest union. They've never lost a labor fight.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the MLB players' negotiations?
Like Bettman will not change off anything immediately. If someone comes in and looks at one thing differently, I would suggest, I mean, that's more progressive than anything Bettman's done in the last 10 years. No, you're right. You're right. I guess I just assume it's going to be Bill Daley. That's part of my general thought.
He's been there for so long, and I don't know if Gary will have a say in who his successor is. I mean, you'd think it'd be the teams, not so much him, but if he has a say... you'd think it'd be someone who sort of sees it the way he does. But I mean, the whole Gary Bettman and his dynamic with the owners and the players and the game is so different than it was when we were playing.
It is far more collaborative and less... And so whoever comes in will be more of that. And you're right, Hayes, you know what? Whether it's games in Europe, whether it's playing tournaments, whether it's midseason cups, whether it's anti-draft, tanking, all this NBA stuff they've done or stuff we can't even think of. Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes sense that some of that would come through.
I just think it's going to be Bill Daley. So he will have been under and with Gary for 30 years, 20 years, whatever it's been. And it will be sort of more of the same.
Yeah, Johnny, I think there could be some tweaks that you could deem as progressive. Even if it's Bill Daley, they'd be like, yeah, I'll look at that. I'll listen on that instead of just an absolute no where Gary seems to be. But, you know, when you're in Carolina, let's swing to the game now. What do you make of this? Who in the back of your mind has the upper hand here?
You've got a very structured Carolina team that's 12-1, and you've got Vegas who seems to be firing in all cylinders and really doesn't have a weakness as well and plays a different style. What do you make of it?
Feels to me, Noodles, like this series, if you flesh out the goaltending, I mean, obviously that's the number one factor, but let's just say they're even, they're both playing well. To me, this series feels like the offense of Carolina, you know, that forechecking, that pace, that turnover base, the quick strike attack that they've been overwhelming teams with.
versus the defense and structure and maturity of Vegas. And if that defense of Vegas is really good, then they'll get Carolina on counterattack opportunities. And we've seen that as well, not often in the playoffs, but when Carolina breaks down, it can be big. That, to me, is the conversation.
And there'll probably be some games where Vegas looks like they figured it out, and there'll probably be some moments where Vegas looks like they're getting swarmed by it like everybody else is. I am slightly leaning to Carolina.
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Chapter 5: How do the guys evaluate the performance of Mitch Marner?
What are you waiting for? It feels like if there was a rush haze, it'd be done, right? Unless it's a coach that's coaching in the game tonight, and it's not. I don't think Tim Gleeson's going to come coach the Maple Leafs or whatever it is. I don't think that's the case. Maybe they were flirting with David Carl, and he said, no, thank you.
Maybe they're waiting on Bruce Cassidy to be freed from Vegas at the end of the season. That could be an option, but they'd be bidding with Edmonton, presumably, for that as well. Maybe LA. I mean, it just... I don't know. I mean, I guess it tells you you don't need a coach to run a draft. You don't need a coach.
It tells you, Hayes, the coach is not going to be involved or might not be involved in planning the direction of what the team's going to play like next year. Because if the coach is not in place and up and running and familiar by July 1... then he's not involved in shaping the team. He's going to end up coaching, which doesn't seem great.
I know he doesn't have to make the calls, but you'd want to have a conversation. Okay, Hazy, you're the coach. You coach this kind of style. Do you like Alex Tuck? Do you like Darren Radish? Do you like whoever it might be? Jason Zucker? What are we doing here? As opposed to you showing up July 15th and saying, here's your team. Hope you like them. I don't know. I'm not bracing for anything.
It doesn't seem like anything's imminent because if it was, it would be done already. Yeah. Again, it's difficult to predict in the end, but the longer it goes, the more it turns into a...
darko ryokovic hiring you know where darko they were the rappers for the last team it was nurse had left and everyone else had picked up hirings and a lot of the old school boys had kind of jumped around the league and then darko gets hired and everyone's like where did this come from you know and that was when they were starting from scratch now the leafs you know i presume look at themselves in a different position
because they want to be competitive next year but i think the longer it goes the more likely it's going to be someone we were not expecting you know someone not necessarily out of nowhere but you know the main characters right now it's cassidy it's you know carl if he's willing to listen yeah exactly where i wonder if it turns into kind of a darko 2.0 and
What if it's somebody in the AHL that's either currently coaching still? There's four teams left. I know it sounds like Ryan Craig might be the successor from Henderson, might be the successor to Tortorella in Vegas potentially.
Who's the coach in Toronto? Is it John Gruden? John Gruden. The Marlies? Yeah. They're playing well. They're still rolling.
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Chapter 6: What are the predictions for the Carolina vs. Vegas series?
Absolutely not. Deny. Deny. Absolutely not. That's recency bias. Last time we saw him, it was just infuriating. Very difficult timing for you proposing this. Listen, he's got a plus six ERA. What's going to happen after the next blowup? We're going to get into Tanner Roark territory where you can't toss him out in the mound anymore. Right.
I think that's accurate, and I think that's fair, honestly. I don't think it's an overreaction. Yeah, that's not being ridiculous. It's not. He's a blow-up away and a blown save or whatever away from legitimately having a designated for assignment conversation. Dude, that was Roark in Texas one night. He went out there, and it looked like he was ā
He was just throwing pizzas right down the middle, and guys were rocking him. And they just said, that's it. That's it, brother. The thing is with Hoffman, he isn't the reason they lost that game against the Dodgers. He needed three outs, man, and Miguel Rojas hit a home run off you. It's 4-3, you're coming in, you've got a chance to win the World Series, and that just is not going to leave him.
I'm not kidding you, Brian. I obviously think about things a lot differently than a lot of people. I would have moved away from him after that just for juju's sake. Do you know what I mean? Just for the symbolism of that and how it went down, and I probably would have guesstimated that it was not going to get a ton better the next year.
So if I could have, I would have moved off of him after the World Series. I really don't care if anyone else thinks like that, but that's how I would have played that. Well, I think Varlin doing what he's doing, go out there and get Rodgers, who's not like a conventional closer type with the funky delivery, but he's been effective. They were, I'm sure, looking at other options.
They didn't pull the trigger on it. But it isn't even about options right now. It's just about Hoffman. And prior to the blowup in Baltimore on Saturday, again, his numbers, he had a couple of clean sheets, and he looked okay. He looked pretty good.
And they removed him from the closing role a month ago, and they've moved him in different positions and put him in different spots, and at times he's looked okay. But blowups like that, bloated numbers, a history, a vibe around him that is not uber positive. Yeah, I'm not sure he gets past the trade deadline.
I'm really not sure. I don't think he does.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, he's really got to turn it around. Really, that goes without saying. Confirm or deny, the Stanley Cup final goes at least six games. I don't think so. I think it's going to end quickly.
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Chapter 7: What are Bryan's FanDuel Best Bets for the upcoming games?
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