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Chapter 1: What happened in Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Final?
Hour 2 Overdrive continues, powered by FanDuel, bringing you more ways to play your game your way. Brian Hazio, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. We've got a good friend Jack Armstrong later in the hour on Game 2 of the NBA Finals. What do we expect out of Wemby tonight? Feels like a must-win for San Antonio. Seeing some of the...
like dollar amounts on these ticket prices for New York games are just absurd.
Dude, can't be real.
It almost feels like it can't be real.
Yeah, like someone's just trying to promote it as the garden and the hype, and it's like, I don't know, man. You're a Knicks fan? Is Ben Stiller? Is that guy paying for it? He's getting free.
All the celebrities are getting free tickets.
But let's say he wasn't. Is he going to be paying $45,000 USD for two tickets? How rich do you got to be to not care about that dollar figure? You got to be pretty rich, man, for a three-hour sporting event.
There's people that have it in New York, though.
Dude, I get it, but I also know rich people that are just like, I'm not blowing 45 USD to go watch a sporting event.
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Chapter 2: How is Dylan Larkin's trade request impacting the NHL?
100%.
They're finding you a way to get tickets. These investment bankers will spend that on... And again, I don't want to speak out of turn, although I know a lot of guys who have big expense accounts. They'll spend that in a weekend in Vegas and have nothing to show for it because it stays at the Spearmint Rhino. Yes. And they write it down as... Straight cash. Expense that bad boy.
I'm telling you, there are... How do you expense... experiment rhino sesh it might be written up on the credit card as something a little bit different you know rick's rick's rick's bar yeah exactly who knows find a way i'm just saying i know people who have expense accounts yeah and they spend some stuff on weird outrageous money
outrageous i'd go to cheetahs in vegas over spearmint rhinos anyway bring in mj anyway yeah it's a big one tonight in san antonio and then the cup final making his way to vegas back to vegas and those will be sought after tickets for sure there's mike johnson our tsn hockey analyst joining us here on the maple toyota hotline that looks like what are you back in toronto johnny what are we dealing with here where are you
I came for another pit stop, Hayes. I haven't been home in five weeks. It's a travel day, so instead of connecting through Atlanta, I connected through Toronto. I flew up this morning, got like 10 hours here, got some new clothes, and then getting ready to go right back to the airport after this to fly out to Vegas.
I can do some research on your T-Dust establishment or Spearmint Rhino, a place I've never heard of, but perhaps I'll find out just what the credit card statement does say. When you go to one of those places.
Cheetahs, they bring you pails of beer on ice. It's a beautiful night.
It probably cost a fortune.
I remember the Spearmint Rhino having the greatest grilled cheese at 3 o'clock in the morning there. I had had alcohol poisoning the night before, so every time I had one sip of alcohol, I would vomit. So I went... Why would you try to have a sip of alcohol? I was trying to grind through on a second night. That's why. And I'm sitting with buddies, and I thought... I fought through it.
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Chapter 3: What are the Spurs' strategies for Game 2 of the NBA Finals?
This is going to be a back-and-forth, tightly contested series.
Johnny, in a shocking turn of events, Brian Hayes agreed with John Tortorella's challenging of the goal or the non-goal. Give us your thoughts. Are you on Team MJ or Team Hazy B slash Torts?
Um, so if we want to operate in a vacuum mode, let's just say, just look at that. Well, I'm on, I'm on hazy being towards things. I can't be in a vacuum, but if I just look at the play, just look at the play. Freddie Anderson does not have that puck at all. It's inside his circumference of his arms, but it's on the ice. It's clear. And to me, Freddie Anderson's glove, oh, was like knuckles down.
It wasn't freezing it palm down. It was knuckles down. He was just lying there. He didn't know where it was. So Barberchev, yeah, he had to go a little bit under the glove to get the puck. But he didn't push the pad and the puck and everything. He pushed the puck through. And so to me, I think that should have counted. I don't think he interfered with Freddie Anderson enough.
And I think he's entitled to go and put his stick on a puck that's loose in the crease. Like, yes, you bumped his glove a little tiny bit. But I think that that should be allowed when the puck is in there and it is still loose. So, yes, I agree with the idea that that should have counted. Where it becomes different, though.
Situation, the fact that it was called a no-go on the ice, trying to reverse an on-ice call is way harder. And with five minutes left, you're like, well, hang on. It's a huge risk if you get it wrong. But he had trusted his penalty killers. Didn't like Caroline's power play because they haven't been very good. So we put all that together and he made the call.
Penalty killers couldn't bail him out. But I do agree that that should have counted. Even if the situation, oh, we could have that conversation. Maybe it dictated being a bit more conservative with that little amount of time left in the game.
Yeah, Johnny, I fully admit I'm on Team Brian Hayes on this one and you as well. I thought – I had no problem with the challenge. And, you know, it was one of those coin flip ones. They got it. Unfortunately, I don't know if they felt they got it wrong, but they were on the wrong side of it. And it's unfortunate. But, you know, did you notice –
in-game adjustments or game game two adjustments compared to game one the flipping out of the puck in the neutral zone some of the things could you tell it was systematically different from both sides
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Chapter 4: What makes Jalen Brunson a special player for the Knicks?
The one thing you saw a little bit, Noodles, a little adjustment, is that in game one, they got exposed a little bit about their man-on-man defense. And the wingers, oh, and I would love this, they play so high. They just stand beside the defensemen. They don't sag. They don't get to the slot. They're just like, I'm out here. When we get it, I'm going.
In game two, that weak side winger did drop into a more normal occupy the slot, get in the trouble areas, then get out. That was a slight difference. Of course, Martin Nook swapping out for Sveshnikov. That was an in-game adjustment on that first line. For Vegas, yeah, the high flips for sure were part of it, but they were just more comfortable. They weren't phased by the speeds.
I don't think they practically made any changes, but they executed better because I think they were more familiar with what to expect and the speed that it would come at them with. So these teams are who they are. You can tinker, but you're in game 100. You're not going to reinvent how you played to get to this point. They've largely got to go with what got them there.
Yeah, quick follow-up on that. Is Brett Houghton entered the Conn Smythe conversation for you? Has to.
12-1 on FanDuel. Kind of has to be. 12-1.
That's a new development, though. Because two games ago, I don't think he was on it. Like, coming into the final, I don't think he was on the top eight or whatever. So, yeah, I mean, if you go and score four more goals and he ends up with, what, 17 or something?
Like, you know, even if he doesn't get a ton of assists, all those goals... Now, the problem with him, or his candidacy, is that a lot of the goals he'll score, Mitch will get points on. Mitch is up to 24. You get to 30. That is a monstrous playoff. So if Mitch gets to 30, I don't care how he gets to 17 and 6. I still think Mitch Varner probably wins it. But...
It's wild to think, even though he only played, I think, 58 games in the season, how he only scored 12. The fact that he has more in the playoffs than he did in the regular season with a 12-pack in the regular season is tough to figure because you see that speed, you see that strength, the way he shrugged off. Jacob Slavin, of all people, for the second one. Yeah, he's in the conversation.
Has to be. And Freddie, all of a sudden, who had to be the winner for Carolina, his numbers last three, four games, not so good. So I don't even know if Carolina were to win the series. I don't know who wins it on their team. I'm not quite sure who would.
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Chapter 5: How are the playoff performances affecting the Conn Smythe Trophy race?
And you can very quickly list off teams that would like him, whether it's LA, Minnesota, Montreal, Rangers, like a whole bunch of teams could use him. That would be willing to pay quite a bit to get him. So that league-wide is huge. And guys, just as an aside, Like, is it me or does it feel like the Olympic, the American Olympic team had a wildly impactful effect on each other?
More so than just they are together and they won and they're proud and they should be. But just about like the business and their futures and taking control of their careers. Like, you know, the Hughes brothers, the Kachuk brothers and Austin and Dylan and Zach Wierenski. I talked to him after winning the Norris. He's talking about, I got to start winning.
You know, it's all out there where these guys are like they don't want to wait anymore. So I just wonder what those dormitory conversations in Milan were like. But so there's that side of it. The other part is, what does this do to the Eiser plan, guys? Like he was building to now. And Larkin is a big part of that build.
And if he goes, you're going to get a bunch of players and prospects, but it's going to set the timeline probably back a year or two, which is not the intention. It was not the focus. It was like, you're trading first rounders for Justin Falk, not to have your captain leave the next summer to go young again. Like this is, it's a tricky, tricky situation.
And I think about Iserman apparently was in on Hughes, right guys, Quinn Hughes. And he wasn't sure about parting with Edvinson. Yeah. Now you're like, well, had you traded for Hughes, I doubt Dylan Larkin's going anywhere. He's probably hanging around a bit longer. But the unwillingness to make that deal for whatever reason, want to keep track of Edmondson on their team, I don't know.
But just the domino effect of where this leaves Detroit, I do not know.
Johnny, my buddy texted me and said he thinks the NHL is kind of trending towards the NBA where movement for star players are just going to be, I want to kind of get out of here and go there. I don't think it's going to be to the James Harden extent, but what do you think about that?
So I remember a day, I'm old enough to remember a time when the NHL was often criticized because there were not a lot of deals, right? The cap was too tight. Star players never went anywhere. They just resigned where they were, and it was kind of boring when it came to transactions. So we're going away from that. I don't have a problem with it at all.
I know some people don't like the idea of him, air quotes, bailing on his current club. You know, you give a team 11 years, you're entitled to make it. You know, if you want to go somewhere else, you don't like what's happening. And I am generally player empowerment. If they want to take control and they have the leverage to because I tell you what, he wants to opt out.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the ticket prices for NBA games?
Except for Jersey, except for Detroit, evidently. Detroit and Detroit. But, you know, Matthew Kachuk, when he was out, he controlled it and said, I'm only going somewhere where I'd sign long-term. So he kind of basically created his own no-trade list. That's a guy that I think anyone in the league would pay almost anything to get. I'm curious how you think Larkin stacks on that front.
Like in terms of the presented deals... Two prospects, two firsts. I don't know if it gets that crazy for a guy like Dylan Larkin.
I think Dylan Larkin is easily a consensus. I might be being conservative. Easy top 20 to 30 center in the league.
Okay.
So he's not a super-duper first-liner, but he's definitely a first-liner. And I think he has aided in his perception, Hazy, because he hasn't played in the playoffs, so he doesn't have the rep as a playoff guy, but he was good in the Four Nations, and he was good in the Olympics. And that's all people can kind of go off of when the chips are down. He was good.
In the Four Nations, he was one of America's best players. So, you know, you can be a team like Montreal and slide them in beyond Suzuki... Or you can be a team like Minnesota, and he can be your number one guy. And both cases would make a lot of sense, and he would help a team win. We were joking about the Matthew Nyes trade last week, and people freaked out about it.
But you saw what Nyes is reportedly being shot for, right? The insiders were reporting what that package was, two picks and a prospect and whatever. He's better than Matthew Nyes. He's more valuable than Matthew Nyes. And he has term. So he's not going anywhere. You've got control on him.
So he's not Quinn Hughes, but he's a major, major league asset, especially given the control you have for the next several years. Where do you think he's going, Johnny? Minnesota. Everybody thinks that. What about Boston? I mean, look. He wants to win, though.
Okay, what's Minnesota going to give up for him? You tell me that right now. That's what I want to know. A goalie.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts feel about the current state of the NHL playoffs?
Wallstead?
Detroit's got a couple of their goalies, so don't they?
I know they have a ton. Yeah, but Cosa lost the net in the playoffs, guys. Cosa was part of this great Brad Rapids year, go down the minor league rabbit hole. But he was awesome early. But he wasn't even playing in the playoffs. So, you know, Wall said, you're off. Charlie Straumel is a huge, like a really high-end pick, a first-rounder.
They have three premium assets at a first-round pick in 28. I would probably get it done. And I think Dylan Larkin has no trade protection. He would accept that trade. I'm pretty sure he would go there. So you have to factor that in when you think where he might go is where he would accept to go. Boston might be one. I don't know what their prospect pool is like.
If you're Montreal, you've got to make a call.
Big time.
Imagine him and Suzuki 1-2. Unreal. And they have so many assets. So many players that they could trade for him and not deplete their NHL roster. So, yeah. But I think Minnesota. It just seems like that's a good fit. And they need him so bad. And they committed to Kaprizov to be good. What if Detroit wanted Hage? You... you have to, yes, 100%, you make that deal for Montreal.
Not because you don't like Hage, but what is, if Hage turned into Dylan Larkin, that would be a monumental success, right? Like, why hold on to a guy in hopes that he can become the guy you're trading him for? Like, do you think Hage is any better than Dylan Larkin?
That's true. Like, he's got five years at 8.7. And I'm just saying, like,
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Chapter 8: What are the best bets for tonight's games according to the hosts?
I have to be inside. It's just practical.
Journalism, man. Journalism. You're doing the work for us. We appreciate it. Thank you, Johnny. Mike Johnson joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. It's time to check out the Toyota Tacoma and Toyota Tundra pickup trucks, both available as hybrids. Maple Toyota near Canada's Wonderland in the Maple Auto Mall. Yeah, I mean, if I'm Montreal, I'm... I'm putting chips in, man. Of course.
You're kind of locked and loaded. It's very clear they need center depth beyond Suzuki.
And a good player instead of going out and – Right. I like Oliver Kapanen, but it's not Dylan Larkin.
No, exactly. He didn't play a lot in the playoffs. He's young. He's a rookie. If you can have Evans as your third or fourth line center – if you go Suzuki –
larkin captain evans like that's a really good one through four like really good i brought it up yesterday brian and and just what mj was talking about all these american players and all that he would have to be you don't have to it's coming up to canada Yes, for sure.
But if he wants to win, that's the thing. Montreal, why is Minnesota better than Montreal in terms of the way they're situated moving forward?
I agree.
I don't think they are. I think the Habs put their hands up and said, we think we can win real soon.
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