Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)
Tue, 15 Apr 2025
How did a federal prosecutor named Martin Bell end up suing a 70-million-year-old tyrannosaurus, looted from the rocky sands of the Gobi Desert? By teaming up with The Babe Ruth of Forfeiture and a personal injury lawyer representing the president of Mongolia, naturally. What followed was a matter of international diplomacy and Florida men — of a narc at the museum and a conspicuous crate, all leading to Pablo's high school, The Graveyard of the Oviraptor... and, of course, Nicolas Cage. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What sound are we trying to identify?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. I just want people to understand how hard it's been for me to know that Nicolas Cage would show up and not just scream, Nicolas Cage is going to show up in this episode. Just hold up. Right after this ad.
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Martin Bell, hello. Hello. I want to explain that I have looked up to you in a very sincere way for decades now. Went to the same high school, followed you to college. You were a would-be advisor to me. Should I have gone to law school? That's true. I did not. You did. How do you describe what you did before you became fancy private sector attorney?
oh gosh, I did debate for the same high school program. I covered the baseball team in college that you would eventually cover for the school newspaper. I did the Sports Illustrated internship, I think, that you would eventually do. you might have been sitting in this chair. I think about this all the time, honestly.
I really think that, like, I've tried to describe my relationship with you, and somebody once sort of furrowed their brow and said, "'Protege?' And I'm like, "'No.'" Sort of just like an alternate sliding doors type scenario. If I had your talent, which I don't, to be clear.
And vice versa.
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Chapter 2: Who is Martin Bell and what is his background?
Right. Yes.
In the power rankings of stuff I would buy if I had the money to buy the thing.
T-Rex skull. Dinosaur fossil one and like, you know, used astronaut suit like number two. This is how I imagine myself as a wealthier person. Same. So we started to investigate. I should note, we worked with Homeland Security Investigations. I worked with a very talented agent named Daniel Brazier. who was my partner in all of this.
We always partner with these folks who do the legwork and sometimes the dangerous stuff.
Yeah, I'm getting a law and order dinosaur investigation.
In the dinosaur criminal universe, there are really two sides. There are the agencies that do the legwork, track down the dinosaurs and execute the search warrants, and the lawyers who do the stuff I did.
These are their stories.
Bong bong. given that Mongolia owns everything that comes out of the ground unless they give express written consent of the Mongolian cultural patrimony organization.
Mongolian dinosaur policy being similar to Major League Baseball broadcasts.
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