Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

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Pablo Torre Finds Out 43 min 12 speakers 2 chapters transcribed
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Pablo Torre 0:00
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. I just want people to understand how hard it's been for me to know that Nicolas Cage would show up and not just scream, Nicolas Cage is going to show up in this episode. Just hold up. Right after this ad.
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Pablo Torre 1:07
Martin Bell, hello. Hello. I want to explain that I have looked up to you in a very sincere way for decades now. Went to the same high school, followed you to college. You were a would-be advisor to me. Should I have gone to law school? That's true. I did not. You did. How do you describe what you did before you became fancy private sector attorney?
Martin Bell 1:35
oh gosh, I did debate for the same high school program. I covered the baseball team in college that you would eventually cover for the school newspaper. I did the Sports Illustrated internship, I think, that you would eventually do. you might have been sitting in this chair. I think about this all the time, honestly. I really think that, like, I've tried to describe my relationship with you, and somebody once sort of furrowed their brow and said, "'Protege?' And I'm like, "'No.'" Sort of just like an alternate sliding doors type scenario. If I had your talent, which I don't, to be clear.
Pablo Torre 2:16
And vice versa.
Martin Bell 2:17
It's an interesting sort of thing where we had the same trajectory for a while, and then one of us went through with law school and the other one didn't.
Pablo Torre 2:29
And instead of imagining a world in which Martin Bell was the one who started his own podcast and commissioned a butter sculpture of his own head and also kissed it on camera, I wanted to tell you what he went on to do instead, which was graduate from Harvard Law School and then become a federal prosecutor, an assistant US attorney for the Southern District of New York. And if you don't know what the Southern District is, if you've never seen an episode of Billions or watched any number of legal dramas, you should know that it is the nation's most prestigious US attorney's office. It is known, according to The New York Times, for handling, quote, complex and challenging cases involving high finance, national security and public corruption, end quote, which is why it was an especially big deal when this recently happened.
Danielle Sassoon 3:17
We're following more breaking news, and it's more fallout after the Justice Department's directive to drop the case against Mayor Eric Adams. Danielle Sassoon, the acting U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, has just resigned.
Pablo Torre 3:30
But that's not the only thing that the Southern District has been dealing with lately. They are the folks who are prosecuting Diddy.
Eric Prokopi 3:39
The indictment alleges that those individuals facilitated the freak-offs. They booked the hotel rooms and stocked them with the supplies, including drugs, baby oil, personal lubricant, extra linens, and lighting.
Martin Bell 3:54
Somebody's got to have the tough job of separating the innocent rooms full of baby oil cases from the more suspect ones. And that's where the good people of my old workplace fit in.
Pablo Torre 4:09
Martin Bell worked with those people at his old workplace for roughly 11 years. And a lot of the time he was prosecuting corruption cases, also doing some security stuff. But the case I wanted to bring him here to find out about The case that Marty personally prosecuted was a civil forfeiture case. And civil forfeiture, you should know, is a little strange because it's when the defendant is literally a piece of property. Like in this case, the property's human owner is not the defendant. It's the thing itself. The thing that gets forfeited on account of that thing is alleged involvement in a crime.

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