“Please Enjoy It Or You Are Fired”: Inside PTFO, with Dan Le Batard

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Pablo Torre 0:00
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
Chris Cote 0:06
Even if you hit him in the balls, it'll make a memory. Right after this ad.
Pablo Torre 0:17
We are rolling now, yes? Okay, so Dan, my one task for Chris Cody, who is behind the glass and dancing immediately, is if Kawhi Leonard gets traded, you need to tell me. I'm on it. And if anyone else gets indicted in a gambling scandal, same deal. I'm your man. Okay, great. Dan, hi.
Chris Cote 0:40
Nice to see you. I feel like this is a perpetual state for you, that you say this to your wife, you say this at funerals, you say this in confession, you say this to the priest, you say this everywhere.
Pablo Torre 0:51
I was talking to David, David Sampson, our friend, fellow Pulitzer Prize winner, and We were morbidly talking about what if the NBA announces its ruling on the Aspirations story during the funeral of his daughter, which we were attending yesterday. We're taping this on Monday. And so your joke is it's the thing that's in the back of our minds, right?
Chris Cote 1:22
This is a plague for the over-preparers among us. I don't live in the world that you guys do with this stuff. Like, that is not dark comedy.

How do Dan and Pablo balance personal life with work?

Chris Cote 1:31
That's just deeply dark. What if Kawhi gets traded during my daughter's funeral is not a question anybody should be asking.
Pablo Torre 1:38
What if any number of things that are floating in the air are announced at a time in which we are here to grapple with, like, what's actually important in life and death? It's a bit, look, in the screenplay of what David's life is certainly, as I'm here in Miami, which I have not been in with my wife, Liz, since you got married to Valerie, we are here, again, because of the worst thing that's happened to a friend of mine, since the last worst thing that happened to a friend of mine, which was your brother's death. That's how doing this show and being at this company has also felt.
Chris Cote 2:22
I have spent the last nine months during what is David Sampson experiencing what I think is about the cruelest thing I've ever seen. A human being experience. Texting him some form of... What about the Padres' bullpen? What do you think of the Padres' bullpen today and some of the things that you're covering in sports? It sort of makes everything very small. It makes even something as substantive as your ambition and David's ambition, both of them very willful, substantive things. It makes them shrink and pale in comparison, but not so much that the two of you aren't thinking at the funeral what happens if Kawhi gets traded.
Pablo Torre 3:04
I should say that I was, I cannot speak for David on that. I just know that previous conversations had acknowledged what would be the most inconvenient time for us to work. That's dark subject matter. Dude, by the way, so just on being dad, as I am now, as David is, you know, I just want to say, like, We want everybody we know to donate to the Kira Fund. I just want to say that up top here in a totally unambiguous way. We'll put in the show notes. Kira Sampson, age 28. And so when I'm here and we're also grappling with like real... Like what is... Who gives a f**k? Like legitimately, that's the thought I had sitting at that service was... If I don't put this in perspective, I am failing. The all-consuming nature of this job, I need to remind myself of why these relationships and these friendships and these bonds, why they matter so much to me.
Pablo Torre 4:19
And it's not because we won an award or we might get the thing. It's that we got to do this.
Chris Cote 4:26
That is the definition for success for this for me is getting to keep doing it. And it's fairly simplistic. And it's a lot different than how I've ever looked at some of this stuff because you do get altered by grief and altered by death.

What challenges arise when discussing grief in a public setting?

Chris Cote 4:44
I have found ambition can very often be lonely. and is almost always insatiable. So the chase never stops being the chase. And unless you stop running because you make a conscious decision to stop running, everyone uses the trope of this puts life in perspective. But until you've been soaked in the stale sickness of what grief is in your body, in your stomach, you wake up, you can't sleep, it's always sort of there.

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