Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
The pastor brings him to the church, but the pimpin' brings him back. Right after this ad.
What is your algorithm like now that... My algorithm is a lot of workout stuff.
Meth looks good. Thank you. He always looks good. Appreciate that.
Chapter 2: What does Generation X mean to Method Man?
It's so frustrating how good he looks. I get alerts wherever it is that I am that meth is appearing somewhere in public because of the amount of thirsty women who still, still are looking. You know this is true. They're as rare as the 50-year-old plus sex symbol that gets women as crazy as meth does at this point.
I would say that these are females that are rooting for a generation that was very rare. A very rare generation. Generation X. We're different. We are different.
Wait, hold on, hold on. For people who don't remember or understand, and by the way, Method Man, thank you for being here. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Big fan, Pablo. Oh, well, this is a true delight for a couple of reasons, one of which is that you guys, you and Dan, go way back. That's my brody. And I need to ask about that.
But for people who don't remember your generation, what is Generation X?
Generation X is the generation that came in between televisions and computers. We were there before the internet. It's more or less like we had the best of both worlds. We were the generation that still played outside, had less rules, and even had a reminder on television. It's 10 o'clock. It's 10 p.m.
Do you know where your children are? Because parents forgot they had kids back then. They were in the street playing with other kids, which is not something that's happening anymore.
We drank out of the water hose, brother. Come on. Generation X. Different. Made different.
How did you two first get to know each other?
Sports. It's sports and the show, right? Absolutely. As I recall, I just really enjoyed talking to him the first time I talked to him and was flattered. that he would have any interest in what we were doing. But when he talks about Generation X and the way that Wu-Tang hits people, ESPN did that for him, I'm assuming. Yes.
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Chapter 3: How did Method Man and Dan Le Batard first connect?
He's properly groomed, and so he doesn't have the nose hair issues, yes, but it's a little more intimate, I suppose, than he would like.
Very much so. Very much so. And, I mean, watching Dan with his father on the show, but prior to that being on ESPN, you as well, guest on PTI, things of that nature, part in the interruption. Love that show. Anyway, I'm a Long Island kid, so sports were very... Prevalent in Long Island from the time you're a shorty playing Little League baseball to when you get old enough to play peewee football.
Then it's lacrosse, basketball, the whole shebang. I mean, I even wrestled one year in junior high school.
What's the scouting report on junior high school Method Man in a singlet? Oh, it was tough.
It was pretty tough, man. I thought that the rest, especially when I joined wrestling, I thought we were going to be doing like WWE type stuff. Nothing near that. And way more strenuous than I thought it'd be. The practice is more strenuous than the actual match. The match is what? Minute, minute 30, two minutes. Yeah, the practices were way worse.
I'm pretty sure that the first time he was on with us, Meth mentioned that he used to kick the ass of Stugatz's lacrosse team.
Yes, I was going to ask about this. We kick Valley Stream's ass all the time, and in football. Absolutely. And slashing was real lenient, too. You could probably hit somebody in the head with the stick. Well, not in the head, but you could hit them on the top of the shoulder pad without getting in too much trouble, depending on where you were playing at.
When we played Port Washington, those dudes were soft. I hope you're not from Port Washington.
Yo, Matt, that's where I'm from, man. That is where I'm from, Matt. Matt, we lost the state semifinals last year. Those dudes were soft.
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Chapter 4: What was Method Man's experience in junior high wrestling?
No, getting hurt and crying. Oh, like he's talking about actual crying.
He's not talking about whimpering. He's talking about your surprise that Wu-Tang would be tougher than Stugat.
I don't know, in my view, like Method Man playing lacrosse is a mad lib.
I like that. I like the way you put that. You know what? It started, I had a cousin. I played lacrosse, and he just brought me down one day. And I just took to it, man. I played four years. I was okay. And one coach that stood out the most to me was a coach named Mr. Hodish. He was a great coach.
And I mentioned him when I did an interview on CBS for the PLL, Premier Lacrosse League, which is Paul Rabel and those guys. They're doing a great job with that league, by the way. So I mentioned Mr. Hodish, and I... On Twitter, I got a tweet from one of his daughters, and he actually remembered me and said, yeah, he was a pretty good lacrosse player. So I'm valid.
I'm pretty much valid because Mr. Hodesh vouched for me.
Word. I want to understand how being a person who competes in team sports informed the fact that you are an instrumental figure in the world of, I think, the closest thing to team sports in music.
Nice.
Well, I mean, yeah, team player, that's me. And I love the fact that Wu-Tang, when we came in, you know what I mean? Nine people, unheard of.
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Chapter 5: How does Method Man view the impact of teamwork in music?
So it's a lot to choose from, first and foremost. So you're going to get the guys that you feel are best first, and you're going to capitalize with those guys. But in the midst of you capitalizing on those individuals, you're working for one brand. Not only that, you're working along with other labels too.
for one person's cause, which was ours, which was, I don't even know if that was masterminded that way, but it worked so well because we were on so many different platforms at once where I would drop an album, then you get a GZA album, then Ray would come after that, Ghost, now you got another Woo album.
So by the time we dropped our second album, there was so much anticipation it had to be a double album. So, I mean, these numbers work. And as far as the monetary thing, I can't even say it's 50-50 because you would have to ask the individuals. But for me, it's always been 50-50. I've always been on board with whether it was team or for myself. That's just how I work.
And the way these things work... You have to speak to everybody as an individual. You can't speak to us as a group anymore, you know, especially with how long we've been in the business and how lucrative we've been on our own. So when we come back, we all come back with an understanding that this isn't a me thing. It's an us thing.
But when you're on that stage, the way we format our shows, everyone gets their time to either... Let's call it like a solo act in a play where it's just two actors on stage. That could be Ray and Ghost. And then there's a long monologue where it's just one player on the stage. That could be RZA, myself, or whoever.
And then when you get the whole cast on stage, it's like the grand finale of the show, right? And it just puts the cherry on top.
The crescendo where all of you are together. It's kind of amazing that you guys have stayed together this long.
Well, I believe that's the cherry on top of it because we're stronger together as a unit than we are as individuals, for sure.
But there is this thing of you guys being able to go and do your own side quests. Yeah. So I went to—I saw in New York. I had the pleasure of seeing—actually, I saw it in Miami and then in New York— I saw RZA do the 30th anniversary celebration of 36 Chambers. There's an orchestra.
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Chapter 6: What lessons does Method Man share about creativity and insomnia?
Yes. I don't know if you do meditation or any stuff like that, but I do think that workout acts as that for him. I believe that he goes into that space to get his body whatever chemicals it needs so he feels good about himself.
And honestly, for people, I'm just going to put this out there, If you are having troubles and need help, therapy is a great way to start. I will speak to mental health on this. Therapy is a great way to start. I just, you know, there's some things that I need to work out. I'm recently been working on a memoir and, um,
Remembering all these things from my childhood has opened my eyes to a lot of things that I didn't remember or were placed deep inside my subconscious that I wasn't aware or didn't hit me the same way it did as an adult. And, yeah, I need to talk to someone about that, you know, figure some things out.
I feel like the version of meth that I am meeting is not the one that Dan necessarily met when you guys first met the first time.
Oh, I was a mess. But, no, it's still the same meth. It's just, you know, it's more layers to him now because he's becoming more self-aware. You just referred to meth in a third person. Yeah, that's that dude. He has a lot of problems.
Now I could make a pun that I didn't even intend, but as a triple entendre, I want to know if you're a method actor. Do you inhabit, let alone the roles in Hollywood, but like the character of Method Man?
You know what? That's interesting because... No, no, no, no. That's all me. And I incorporate that into my acting as well. It's just... For me, it's translation. And... I like to think of it as, and this is the best way I can put it, I like to think of it as living vicariously through a character.
So when we're watching certain movies or TV shows, even if he isn't the main character, there are certain characters we gravitate to. And then we start rooting for this character so much we are living vicariously through this character. So every decision he makes has to make sense to us. It has to be real. It has to be authentic. So that's how I like to approach it.
He also told me early on, he said that the reason that he thought he could be a good actor is because rappers are such good liars.
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Chapter 7: Why are rappers considered good liars?
Yeah.
That the character has.
Yes.
The character is bulletproof in terms of confidence. And there is no human that is that.
Well, that's going to resonate with the audience. You can... Command the camera so much that you don't even have to say a word and the camera stays on you while someone else is talking. That means you're doing the work. People like Morgan Freeman get that. People like Tom Cruise, you know. Like I said, I'm still working on that level of it.
I'm having real human experiences when I'm doing these parts, and that's the best thing I get out of it right there.
When you look back at your catalog, is there a point in which you're like, this is when I realized I'm going to have fun doing this. I'm going to enjoy what could be very hard for people to imagine doing.
Yeah, especially with the acting. I did a movie called The Cobbler with Tom McCarthy. Now, Tom is like... He's an award-winning writer, director. It was a great project. And, you know, basically Adam Sandler is the star of the movie, and most of the actors are trying to... Let me just give you the premise of it really quick.
The premise of the movie is a cobbler, a guy who makes shoes, or repairs shoes. And, um... His mom just dies, he's kind of depressed, and his shoe machine breaks down, but there's this old one that he has in the back.
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Chapter 8: What is the story behind the Wu-Tang Clan's recruitment video for KD?
What the fuck are we doing? You want to stay in Harvard or what? I can't smoke a finger.
This shit's not working.
Is that your first foray into acting?
It was, I think, second. That was 2001.
How do you feel watching that? Because you are an accomplished actor now.
Can you also just explain, you did a great job summarizing the premise of The Cobbler. Can you explain the premise of How High?
I'm going to explain it the same way it was pitched to us when we picked this script. This guy, Dustin Lee Abraham, I give him the majority of the credit, the writer. Brad Kaya also was a writer on it. He came in, he was like, two guys getting to Harvard, by smoking their dead homie. And that's the premise of the film.
Two guys who are down on their luck get into college by cheating because they smoked the ashes of his dead homeboy.
You're taking the SAT, but your performance enhancer is the ashes you've smoked of your dead friend, which I cannot stress enough is a key aspect to the whole setup of this, which pays off in that scene.
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