The Congressman Who Unlocked the Epstein Files
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're gonna find out what this sound is.
And that's why I say this is one of the greatest scandals in American history. It's because the moral reckoning that we're gonna face that we allowed our elite to do this.
Right after this ad.
We booked you over like the holidays.
What scandal is highlighted in the episode?
And I want to get to the Epstein Files, obviously. I want to get to Silicon Valley, which you represent. That is in your district as well. But I need to ask you how you found out that the United States invaded Venezuela and captured President Nicolas Maduro.
The truth? Yeah. On X. I saw a tweet linking to the New York Times saying we had gone in and captured Maduro and are at war with Venezuela. President Trump says the US carried out large-scale strikes on Venezuela overnight.
The capture and apprehension of the president of Venezuela, as well as his wife.
The US, as you say, has carried out a series of airstrikes in Venezuela, capturing President Nicolas Maduro and his wife. As you say, President Trump did confirm that in a social media post. Now, it didn't come as a surprise to me because I am on the Armed Services Committee. I had been through a number of classified briefings with the military, and I had sounded the alarm weeks ago on the House floor saying, we're building up all of these personnel and troops in Florida, in Puerto Rico. We're increasing our destroyers and our ships in the Caribbean. You don't do this if your goal is just to strike boats in the Caribbean. We are gearing up for a regime change war. And the reality is that Marco Rubio lied to the country and Hegs had lied to the country.
But anyone who was in those briefings and a senior person on the Armed Services Committee and who understands military strategy knew that we were preparing for a major operation.
Okay, so two things are true, though. One is that, in retrospect, of course, this is all how the weather vane was pointing. but on Twitter.
That's how we learned. People have this hyped up sense of what it means to be a member of Congress and a senior member of Congress on the Armed Services Committee. You would think, oh, someone from the White House is going to give you a call or the defense secretary is going to give you a call.
How did Ro Khanna learn about the U.S. invasion of Venezuela?
No, I got the news like any of my colleagues are being honest on Twitter or some may have read the New York Times.
But just the idea, so again, like... It's just remarkable and also unsurprising to me that an operation that involves, per the New York Times, more than 150 military drones, fighter planes, bombers, all that stuff. Of course, we know now, at this point in the week, Congress... generally gets notified of those things. Of course, in this case, I want to discuss that. You guys were not. What's unsurprising, as remarkable as it is, though, is that this is the Congress that doesn't get told because this Congress, Ro Khanna, just happens to feel more generally impotent than any other Congress, certainly in my lifetime.
Well, I would say that's right. I mean, this Congress needs to wake up. We did wake up on the Epstein issue where Thomas Massey and I forced a vote in Donald Trump to sign the bill. It was the single biggest Democratic bill, my bill, the Epstein Transparency Act, that was signed by Donald Trump in 2025 and where he is bowing to Congress, where they already are under pressure to release now five million files, where we've gotten documents of him being on the Epstein plane and having lied about that in 2024.
Yes.
Where we found out that there are co-conspirators who were not tried. But on war and peace, we've been absent. I mean, it is shameful to me that we don't have more people saying you can't just use our awesome military to go in and invade a weaker and poorer country. That's not how we do things in America. And Donald Trump is out there saying we want to take their oil. Like, we're not Britain. We're not Rome. We don't march in with gunboat diplomacy in 21st century America and invade other countries. It's offensive to me.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:24
2
What scandal is highlighted in the episode?
0:24–2:28
3
How did Ro Khanna learn about the U.S. invasion of Venezuela?
2:28–13:52
4
How does Ro Khanna view the role of Congress in military actions?
13:52–15:28
5
What is the Epstein Transparency Act and why is it significant?
15:28–17:56
6
What moral issues are raised regarding the elite and accountability?
17:56–53:13
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