187: Feel The Burnham
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Page 94, The Private Eye Podcast.
Hello and welcome to another episode of Page 94. My name is Andrew Hunter-Murray and I'm here in the iStudio with Helen Lewis, Adam McQueen and Ian Hislop. We're here to discuss the big events of the week's news, not least since the last issue of the magazine came out. And we should begin with the very biggest, of course. A new day has dawned, has it not? Or a new social media strategy.
Yeah. Andy Burnham is our first kind of Instagram native prime minister, which is quite an achievement. But he has he's done two things in his first week. One, he's an absolute blizzard of policy announcements. And two, he's done a kind of blizzard of media things. So the most notable from an inside baseball perspective is that he has had every morning at 6 a.m., in lobby correspondents' inboxes, a not-embargoed policy announcement. Now, there are probably several words in that sentence that you are craving for me to explain to you. So let me say, so the lobby first of all... Policy for a start.
Who is this Burnham you're talking about?
It's not low and work up. So if you have a lobby pass, that means you are a journalist who works on the grounds of Westminster, the parliamentary estate. In return for your greater access, you can wander around and kind of buttonhole people in corridors. You have to do a number of things, like you have to, for example, declare your interests, like where you might have outside speaking gigs. So it's understood that these are people with privileged, special access to politicians. And in return, they have to kind of cleave to higher standards.
OK.
They are very used to the idea that before anything gets announced, they're told about it. So they can, in the nicest way, go, well, where are you going to get money for that from then, mate? Or, but you've already announced this twice, or whatever it might be.
Or I presume just prepare a story for the next day's paper. Right. Right.
Exactly. So, but now, and so this has caused enormous amounts of grumbling in the lobby WhatsApp chat. So Burnham has done very few traditional interviews and also they've done this blizzard of media stories that have not been, you know, they haven't played favourites and given a bit to the Daily Mail beforehand or whatever it might be. And they've made lobby correspondence jobs harder. Now, you may say, still your tears. Welcome to journalism, where mostly people don't give you things on a plate. I mean, most of the journalism that we do is things that other politicians particularly would rather you didn't publish, rather things that you do want to publish. But that has been very interesting. And it's kind of a signal of intent, which is what you always do as a politician in your first 100 days, whatever it might be.
And he's saying, actually, I think the way I'm going to talk to people is via social media. You are the gatekeepers. You're the old regime. And I actually don't need you anymore.
And what do the new gatekeepers say?
How is Andy Burnham’s new social media strategy annoying Westminster’s lobby journalists?
Thank you very much for this. And then just put it up.
Well, yes. OK, so that's the other thing is there is another hidden reason why. I mean, for all that politicians will complain about, oh, the lobby obsessed with punch and Judy personality. You know, they're all about grandstanding themselves. There is a thing that one of the things that are very annoyed with the lobby is that they say things like, and how are you going to pay for it then, Andy Burnham? And Andy Burnham has already retreated into slightly what I think of as small bean mode, which, for those of our internet persuasion, means that he's kind of a little wounded puppy dog. And some people are asking him questions about Number 10 North, and he said, well, this is you being London-centric critics.
Right.
And I've, you know... The SNP are masters of doing this. Well, this is you talking down Scotland, you say, when you say things like, well, drug deaths are terrible in Scotland. Or, you know, your educational achievement benchmarks have been comprehensively failed. And they say, why do you hate Scotland?
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:55
2
How is Andy Burnham’s new social media strategy annoying Westminster’s lobby journalists?
2:55–3:44
3
What does being an ‘Instagram native’ prime minister look like in Burnham’s early media blitz?
3:44–17:09
4
How is Burnham using influencer-style formats (Reddit AMA, clips, pub-snack videos) to shape policy messaging?
17:09–43:32