188: Entirely Artificial Intelligence
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What is the episode’s opening focus and who are the hosts?
Page ninety-four, the Private
Eye Podcast. Hello and welcome to another episode of page 94. My name's Andrew Hunter Murray, and I'm here in the I Summer Studio with Adam McQueen, Ian Hislop, and Matt Muir. We're here to discuss the events of the last week since the last edition of the magazine came out, and we thought we'd start off with one which has been all over the news. It's the story of the Krukern Gazette and the personal people behind it. So this is an online comedy account, which is mostly consisting of AI video. And the people behind it have been in the news, but it turns out we're already familiar with them. Uh aren't we, Matt?
We are. So I I got interested in the Kukan Gazette in uh November of sort of during the summer last year. And um mainly because I kept on seeing these videos kind of floating around and various elements of the right-wing press saying laudatory things about, as you point out, this new frontier of satire. And I I was just curious as to what was going on, who the people behind it were and questions of that ilk. And I I dropped them a line in November asking if they'd be willing to answer some questions. And They responded saying they would be perfectly happy to answer questions, but they were very keen on preserving their anonymity because we live in a climate that is dangerous for f free speech in Britain, as I'm sure we can all attest to private eye, uh you know, anonymous
Enough. You can't you absolutely find to be anonymous if you so desire. But I was curious as to the motivation behind it and also fundamentally how they were funding a lot of this. Because you know, making AI videos isn't free. And the better they are, the more they cost, you know, the tokens cost money, etc. And so I just wanted to get a little bit of insight into that. And over the course of these conversations, I've I got the vague impression there was something a little bit odd about the whole operation. I couldn't necessarily pinpoint exactly why, but Uh the man behind the account, uh who styled himself Kruk Kern Man and who appeared in various videos wearing a sort of Make America Great Again style cap with a very heavy beard and aviator sunglasses.
Um often AI generated videos themselves. He had spoken about having spent time in America, getting in with a crypto crowd, and I was getting curious as to what his beliefs were and why exactly, despite the fact that he said that he was very much in terms of uh In favour of satire and making fun of everybody, why specifically all of the videos that he put out were kind of pro-reform and Tories and very much knocking anybody on the left. And I'm just curious as to what all that was about. Anyway, uh digging around, and then over Christmas, we completely coincidentally got a tip-off from somebody who lived in Krukern saying that, oh, by the way, the blokes are convicted. Nazi.
Who is behind the Krukern Gazette and what is their neo‑Nazi background?
Adam, I believe, has the full wrap sheet over there. Yeah, it's quite a long one. Um yeah, it involved um you can read actually uh if you if you just Google this, um the the sentencing remarks from his the last time he was uh sent to prison on the eighth of December twenty sixteen by Mr. Justice Spencer. Uh that was for the cruel campaign of vile racist abuse uh against uh Luciana Berger, the Labour MP. Uh but it was also was on top of um six offences of sending malicious communications and offence of harassment, all arising from false and hateful allegations against innocent members. Members of the public that they were paedophiles. And there was an incident as well where he effectively made up a story about a pub uh which was banning members of the armed forces.
And that resulted in that pub having to close and then death threats and arson threats being made against that pub. It was just sort of fantasy in his head. Now, we should probably say at this point that Joshua Bonehill Payne says he's now a reformed character and he greatly regrets all of this and he has done his time in prison. But um You actually put a question directly to him, didn't you, in December?
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the episode’s opening focus and who are the hosts?
0:00–2:20
2
Who is behind the Krukern Gazette and what is their neo‑Nazi background?
2:20–9:26
3
How did the investigation reveal Joshua Bonehill Payne’s involvement and legal consequences?
9:26–16:20
4
What are the environmental impacts of AI data centres on power and water usage?
16:20–21:52
5
Is the AI industry a bubble and how is its financing structured?
21:52–27:34
6
Why are communities resisting AI data‑centre construction in the United States?
27:34–34:03
7
What led to Professor Jason Arday’s resignation over plagiarism allegations?
34:03–38:17