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NFL Week 13 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bears Smash The Eagles, Chiefs On The Ropes, Surging Texans + Lane Kiffin Drama And Rivalry Week
01 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings, week 13 in the NFL is in the books. And we're going to recap it all. We have the Thanksgiving Day games. We have the Black Friday game. Maybe an extended recap of that one. Bears-Eagles. We are going to talk Thanksgiving. We're going to talk some college football as well during our Who's Back segment because it was so crazy.
Lane Kiffin to LSU, Michigan-Ohio State. It was a crazy, crazy weekend. Cal-SMU. Cal-SMU. Extended weekend of football. And we're here. We're back in studio. The boys are back. And we're ready to talk about all of it. We're going to start with Fast 2 Minutes, as always. And it's brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The NFL is in full swing.
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Chapter 2: How did the Bears perform against the Eagles?
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Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 1st, week 13. Let us be the last to wish you a happy Thanksgiving. We start in Detroit for Thanksgiving where everyone was wondering when Green Day Packers offense would come around as Jordan Love showed how his Billy Joe arm is strong. Throwing for four touchdowns on the afternoon.
Detroit needed to win badly and after Amon Ra Brown goes Frazier went out early. They looked to Black Isaac Pease Tesla and Jameson Will Iams to get it restarted in here. But it was too little too late as Dontavious John Wicks delivered the kill shot with an incredible catch to ice the game away. The Packers, 31. The Lions, I don't have the score in front of me.
The Lions didn't score 31 points, bro. What was the final score, Teej? The Lions did not score 31 points. The Packers 31, the Lions 24. What? What? I'm a little rusty from Thanksgiving. I had too much turkey. Too much turkey. We go from Big Balls LaFleur to Big D, where Dacaroni and Cheese Prescott had a noodle arm early on Thanksgiving, throwing an early pick, saying, Pasta La Vista.
George Dickens' career has been a tale of two cities, having Steelers fans saying, Darn, they can't cover that guy in that. Malik, my butthole Davis, had Kansas City defenders looking at his backside as he ran for a long touchdown, but the Chiefs responded as Rasheed Ray Rice has elevated his game and is now finishing drives instead of abandoning them.
and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Brown put a nice play on film as Quentin Tarantino Williams was focused on seeing both his feet get in. But the Cowboys responded as Kevontae Burpin grabbed a loose ball in his tums and leaving Andy Patrick Reed wishing he could play on the live tour so he could wear shorts and execute all the journalists who think the Chiefs are out of the playoffs now.
Cowboys, 31. The Chiefs, 28. To Black Friday, where Max was at the game in Philadelphia.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Packers game for the Bears?
Jordan Love was just, yeah, he was incredible. He's doing the fadeaway. He was doing like, I'm going to, it's, you know what it is like Kirk Cousins now tries to do that, but he does it because he's scared. Right. As he throws, he just immediately turns away from the field. When Jordan Love does the fadeaway, he does it confidently, like you're shooting a three. Yeah.
And he was perfect on Thanksgiving. And it was the Dan Campbell live by the go for it on fourth, die by the go for it on fourth, because we had the Lions. Basically, you could look at this game, and the Lions started slow. Jared Goff was good. Obviously, Amon Ra getting hurt was significant, but it woke up Jamison Williams. Mm-hmm.
But they had two fourth downs that they didn't get, and if they get those, they might win the game. They had one where they were down three midfield, get stuffed, and then they had the one that people are going to debate because it is Dan Campbell and he likes to go for it on fourth down. Down 10 with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter on the Green Bay 21, and he goes for it and gets stuffed.
You're down 10. You need a field goal at some point. But he's like, fuck it, I'm going for this. One of those hit Jameson in the hands, too. It was like a carbon copy of the debate that we had in the playoffs where the play design actually worked. It's the execution. You need to execute the play. You got to execute it. Hank, what do you say about receivers? You can touch it, you can catch it.
That's what we always say on this show. So I'm going to stand by Dan Campbell. Things don't look great for the Lions right now, by the way. That was like the worst week they could possibly have. It seems bad. And when I was thinking about it, I was like, oh, well, this is nothing that getting their old center back won't fix. But it turns out that Frank Ragnow had a grade three hamstring injury.
Which is that he was unaware of the most significant. No, he well, he was slightly aware of he wasn't he wasn't aware of the severity, which tells you how tough Frank Ragnow is because he went in. So this was like Monday or Tuesday. He he went in, said he's coming back. He had to do it before week 13. He told Dan Campbell, I got a little bit of something going on with my hamstring.
Then they had him go through a physical and they're like, yeah, it's grade three tear, which is the worst tear you can have. Yeah. I don't know how he's walking. It probably is a testament to how tough he is and also how bad his body feels all the time that he didn't notice that a grade three tear.
He was just living with grade three is hamstring falling off the bone, which is the most delicious sounding injury that you can have. Yeah. But that's pretty unreal that he was just walking around. He just thought, like, I'm old. This is just kind of what waking up in the morning feels like. It's like, no, you have a very severe injury, sir. Maybe they should just let him play through it.
Just try to play your way back into shape. So they had that? Maybe his hamstring got torn because his body misses playing football. That could be it. He needs a contact. Or do you think there's a chance he might have was like, hey, I'm coming back, and then went out in the backyard and did a sprint and just immediately tore his hamstring? And he was like, fuck, I already said I'm coming back.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of going for two-point conversions in football?
It's actually ā I actually understand both sides. I know that's a cop-out, but the whole ā so for people who didn't see the game or don't remember the moment, it's the Eagles are down ā what were they, down nine? And they go for two down nine to try to cut it to seven. Do I have it right? Yeah.
Yeah.
I have that right, right? They were down nine. They were down nine, and they go for two. And it was like, whatever, however many minutes left in the fourth quarter, there's only a couple possessions left.
The argument is when they go for two, down nine, and they don't get it, the whole team deflates because now it's a two-score game versus kicking the extra point and waiting until the end of the game if you score again to then go for two and then try to tie the game. I see both sides of this argument.
I think there is a human element that analytics kind of ignores sometimes where it's like, is it deflating? Yes.
Greg Olson actually is very much on the side of going for two early because the argument is if you go for two early, you find out what you need for the rest of the game and you can have a chance to do an onside kick and figure out what you're going to actually need versus if you wait to go for two at the end of the game and you don't get it, game's over. But, yeah, I think it's, like, all feel.
I wouldn't. You think you don't go for two there?
Why? You have to go for two eventually.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I like J.J. Watts. Did you see what J.J.
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Chapter 5: How are the Texans positioning themselves in the playoffs?
We did not make eye contact, no.
You think he saw you on the Jumbotron?
I think there was other things to worry about on that sideline.
Do you think Big Dom could just walk into Kevin Petullo's offense, slap him across the face, and be like, act like a man, and that would fix the offense? Yep. I do. I don't know. Put your hands up. Yeah. So, Max. I don't know. Big game, Max. Little game, Max, this weekend.
Little game, Max. It's Monday Night Football.
All right. But you guys should handle the Chargers, right?
If it's Trey Lance, it has to be. It has to be.
And then you get Geno at home. Yep. The Raiders. Then you get the Commanders.
Mm-hmm.
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Chapter 6: What are the key takeaways from the Jets vs. Falcons game?
That's true. I had no problem with the booing. They look like shit. I love the book. I think more fan bases should act like Eagles fans. Expect greatness. Yeah.
Okay. It's probably not great for the players themselves that they're being worried about.
Would you like to just address that specifically? We can make a quote card out of it.
No, I want no cheering. I want no cheering.
No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, hey, players, just so the players know it's not directed at them. Yeah, just be like, hey, don't take it. But it is.
Oh, it is. Okay.
But I feel bad.
But maybe don't take it personally. Don't take it personally. That makes sense. We boo everyone. We're booing the whole of what is going on here. Not you as a personal human being. We just want to see things look a lot better than they look right now. You want to see greatness. There should be greatness.
I've heard a billion times over the past two years that this is the greatest roster of all time, and all of a sudden this roster sucks.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Lane Kiffin's coaching decisions?
Miles Garrett, Hall of Famer, in the conversation to be in the MVP conversation. Yes. But did you see Jerry Judy talking to Shador on the sidelines? He was yelling at him. Jerry Judy, you got to... There's some tape on you, Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy up your booty. But I guess I like, I don't know. I like the fact that they're communicating at least.
I don't think that he talked to Dylan Gabriel that way. I think you could just say whatever you want and then afterwards just be like, yeah, we're passionate. We want to win. We're frustrated. Yeah. I think when Dylan Gabriel is in the game, I don't think that they get that passionate. That's true. He's holding them accountable. Well, it's Hawaiian time. That's true. It's a little more relaxed.
That's true. Yeah, the Browns, congrats on continuing to play hard for that defense. The 49ers, I think since there's no really good teams... They're Super Bowl contenders. Yeah. This is the year that they do it. The Niners, if they make the playoffs, they go to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Let's just check DraftKings real quick. Whose line is it anyway?
Chapter 8: How does the recent college football landscape affect coaching changes?
We got the Ass Bowl next week. Titans versus the Browns. I love the Browns in that game. I don't know what the line would be. I'm going to say, where's the game? Cleveland. Cleveland. Browns minus three and a half?
Nope. I know the number. Oh, wait, Hank knows it too.
Browns minus one and a half. Nope. Browns minus... four and a half really oh they're they're daring you wow they're saying you won't you what's the over under 36 and a half what is it 30 i can't see it 33 and a half that's ass that's ass i like the over based on my numbers 33 and a half damn you know what ass bowl i think i like the titans Yeah, like the Titans and the Overs.
That's a lot of points for an expected total of 34 points. Yeah. Four and a half is a very large percentage of that amount of points. Although you could just see the Browns doing his thing and going up 7-0, game over. Yeah. Okay, afternoon games. Seahawks 26, Vikings 0. Don't have a lot on this game other than Max Brosmer is not it. No, Max Brosner is a great insurance policy for JJ.
I feel like the cobwebs are going to be clearing up pretty quickly for JJ after today. I feel bad for Max Brosner and the fact that I hope he can continue to be a backup, but this was his chance if he played decent to have a long career as a backup. He threw four interceptions. Not all his fault. A couple were tipped. One of them was the worst. One of them was the worst interception.
I also, Hank shared the stat with me that if you spike the ball every play, you'd get a QBR of 39.6. Max Brosner's QBR this week was 32.8, and J.J. McCarthy's QBR last week was 34.2. So that's the quarterback play that's happening for the Minnesota Vikings right now. The interception that you're talking about on the fourth and one, I've never seen a more Carson Wentz play in my entire life.
He learned that from Carson Wentz. He just was like, fuck it. I'm going to hope this works. I'm going to just contort my body. And you know what? It's fourth and one. We should be applauding him for making an attempt, unlike Shador. It's the anti-Shador. You went for it. That's essentially a punt. You just got a punt returned for a touchdown against you. He was just saying he threw a grenade.
He did throw the grenade, but the funniest part of that interception wasn't the pick, I don't think. It was the sad attempt at a tackle afterwards, the little belly flop that he does on the ground to try to reach out and get him. Didn't quite get there, Max.
Going into this game, I did a little bit of reading on Max Brosmer and what to expect out of him, and the report out of camp for the Vikings was that they really liked how calm he was. That was the number one thing that they said about the guy. That he's calm? That he's calm. That he's very calm. Do you think he's calm because he's like, I know that it's not going to work? Or why is he calm?
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