Chapter 1: What recent event sparked the discussion about ICE and immigration?
What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. The power's still on, so that's good. We've been through quite a snowstorm. How much did you get up there, Rob?
I mean, I think about a foot, but I stayed indoors all day. I took some Adderall. I cleaned my apartment. I watched all the news footage, so I had a nice day.
very good very good yeah I just actually for the first time ever I hired a guy to plow my driveway that's not an easy plow job because you're kind of on an angle and steep it is it is a little bit weird but yeah I did it got it got it real nice so that's good um but yeah and I think we're gonna get an episode of Legion of skanks and uh tonight hopefully if everybody uh can get that not at the stand though I think we're doing it at uh Lewis's house
But anyway, guys, by the way, me and Rob will be on the road pretty much for the rest of the year. Comic Dave Smith dot com will be out in Key West is our next stop, which will be better weather than we have here, hopefully.
Chapter 2: How did Donald Trump's immigration policies evolve over time?
So, yeah, I'm hanging out.
It's worth the trip. It's fun down there.
It is always a good time when we go down there. And then we got a bunch more stuff coming up. ComicDaveSmith.com for all those ticket links. All right. So for today's episode, we got to get into a whole lot of what's going on here. Major, major conversations about this latest shooting in Minnesota have been raging on social media and the news in general.
And then I think just like kind of a broader conversation about Donald Trump's immigration agenda, mass deportations, all this stuff. Because I think, you know, Rob, it's like, Look, we're in a storm, like I always say on the show. It's like a bit of a storm, just these moments where everybody is freaking out.
And I really... I had a few posts on social media over the last 24 to 36 hours that got... I pissed off a whole lot of right-wingers, you know, understandably.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of mass deportations on society?
I really was trashing ICE. And I think I called them all a bunch of pussy cowards or something like that, which, you know, I stand by. But... I just find this moment to be interesting. I think there's a lot going on that people are missing. And so let's just let's just start it here. Let's say that because this is something me and you have talked about quite a bit on the show.
Essentially, when Donald Trump first won the election in 2024. And, you know, in that period of time when between when he won the election, when he first came into office, one of the things me and you talked about was that, you know, the Joe Biden years had moved this country far to the right on immigration. In a way that really was kind of inconceivable before.
I mean, the American people never, like, supported the lax border policies of the Biden administration. But you got to a point when Donald Trump is assuming the presidency for his second term where super majorities of the American people supported mass deportations. And for for anybody out there who is an immigration hawk, as I would consider myself to be, that's a big deal.
It's a big deal that you finally got to a place where like the majority and super majority of the American people support the idea that like, yeah, you don't have a right to be here if you came here illegally. And as we talked about a bunch, Rob, this was always a very interesting question.
Chapter 4: How do recent ICE actions affect community relations?
I made the comparison to the civil rights movement a bunch of times where it's like, OK, so. We got 30 to 50 million illegal immigrants here. Donald Trump has a legit mandate to deport them. However, how do you do that? And how much violence is it gonna take to do huge rounds of mass deportations? And will that number, let's say it's 60% who say they support it.
It's one thing to say you support it. It's another thing to support it if it's taken a real amount of ugly violence in order to do. But so Donald Trump had this moment and he had an incredible mandate.
It's really the story of Donald Trump's immigration policy is just kind of like the story of Donald Trump's entire presidency, really unbelievable opportunity, you know, but it was going to take some real skill in exactly how to wield this power, how to get the most juice, the most juice for your squeeze.
And what Donald Trump did, and a lot of people kind of forget this, but Donald Trump took this moment to do two major things. Now, the two things that Donald Trump did were, number one, he immediately jumped on an effort to deport legal residents who are criticizing Israel.
So he immediately took this moment where people were pretty much on his side and went, let me do this in the most controversial way on the most controversial issue that will turn a whole lot of people off and doesn't move the needle one way or the other in terms of demographics. And then the second thing he did, Rob, if you remember this, was he announced we won't be doing mass deportations?
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Chapter 5: What evidence supports the claims about ICE targeting criminals?
I mean, the way Donald Trump said it was something like, you know, in the Trumpian way, oh, we got great people and hospitality and farming. They've been here 10, 20 years. I mean, yeah. AKA, in other words, if you need the political translation to that, Donald Trump didn't just like pick farming and hospitality as the only things that matter.
In other words, Rob, translation, big business doesn't want this. It's a pretty big dynamic of why we've had the immigration policies we've had to begin with, by the way. I know when you see 10 million migrants pour over the borders in just a few years, you may go, this is out of control. Big business sees a lot of cheap labor.
So just to be clear, Donald Trump walked away from mass deportations almost a year ago. There is absolutely no plan to do mass deportations. No one is suggesting that. Donald Trump's not doing that. And the reason I bring that up at the beginning here is that This seems to me to be almost the thing that so many people are missing in this conversation.
I can't tell you how many people on the right I've seen who will go like, yeah, I know it's messy, man.
Chapter 6: How does the podcast address the narrative around violence at protests?
But it's like it's either it's either this or we don't save the republic as as if they're imagining that Donald Trump is in the middle of some effort that's going to end in the demographics of 1985. Right.
something like that but just to be clear it should be noted that's not what's happening it's not what's happening at all what we're doing is we're having this overwhelming performative show of force in these violent you know interactions in order to deport slightly more people than joe biden did in 2024. Like I'm just like objectively, like though that is what's happening. And I don't know.
So I just wanted to start with that because it does seem like so many people are missing that and thinking that in some way you're like, well, this is just what has to be done in order to get all the illegals who came in under Biden out or all the illegals period out when objectively that's already been given up on. Donald Trump's not pursuing that. So anyway, any thoughts you have?
I just think that's an important point.
So you're saying we got all squeeze and no juice right now.
Yes.
Essentially. That's right.
Yeah. That we're getting, we're, we're, I mean, this was the post that I, I made or, you know, I mean, I, like I said, I called ice a bunch of posties and stuff, but whatever.
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Chapter 7: What alternative solutions to immigration issues are proposed?
But what I said is that, yeah, I go, this, this simply isn't worth it. You're, you're putting on this huge show of cruelty. People are dying. You're activating the worst left-wing radicals. And at the end of the day, you're not even like there's not even something to show for it. So, no, this just makes no sense.
And they're speaking for nothing to show for it. Their claim is and I got it. I just got to say they're engaging in such bitch shit with the rhetoric of, well, we're just going for the worst of the worst. And so we're in these areas trying to round up these violent, illegal criminals that shouldn't even be in the country anymore.
and look at these people in antifa who are getting in the way of us removing uh pedophiles and dangerous criminals that nobody wants in the area and that's not true we we've seen footage of you guys just basically harassing random individuals asking them for id so this is not targeted it you guys aren't just going for illegal criminals they keep publishing these lists of like the worst and the worst and from what i understand a lot of those people
They literally just collected from prisons. And so if you guys are just going for criminals, then you're doing it in the worst possible way that even people who would not object to rounding up the criminals, you seem to have activated.
So not only are not only not engaging in the mass deportations, but then even on this storyline of, well, we're actually just trying to get the criminals out of the country. well, then you're doing it in a profoundly stupid way if people are out in the streets objecting to it.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts critique the responses from political leaders?
And it sounds to me like that's not what you're doing. It sounds to me like you've gone into these areas looking for a fight.
Well, I mean, there was this one story which included, you know, several people, several eyewitnesses and images and video and all of this. Daryl Cooper posted it, who's about as right wing as you get. Daryl Cooper is the guy who they all tried to say was like a Hitler loving Nazi for the last year, which he's not that either. But he certainly is a real right winger.
And even he posted he's a real immigration hawk. And it was there was like a 16 year old kid who was a U.S. citizen who they fucking tackled like at a Wal-Mart. And then they just released him at another place. Yeah, they check his papers. They fucking find out, oh shit, he's a US citizen. He's got ID right here. Yeah, he's a US citizen.
And they just released him at another parking lot like eight miles away. And then residents found him just crying. It was like they slammed me on the ground. His face is all bloodied and shit. You're like... I'm sorry. And again, for people to feel this need that you have to defend that, this is what's been so funny about the whole response to all of this. It's just everyone.
And I've just, I don't know, I've been through this enough times. I know, I know. Everybody who fell for the COVID bullshit and fell for the Ukraine bullshit and fell for the Israel bullshit and fell for, you know, everyone who gets everything wrong, they all come to you right away. You're getting this wrong in the heat of the moment. Like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not.
You don't on every angle, by the way, I got the open borders. Libertarians come back to me. See, Dave, we told you this is why you can't. It's like, no, open borders is still retarded. That makes absolutely no sense. It's still retarded to say you could just let the whole world flood in here. That makes no sense at all. This, you know, was Matt Walsh came in.
He told me I'm siding with the open borders communists.
Yeah.
What? No, I'm not. I'm not suggesting we should open the border. And this is a bunch of people on social media go, oh, so you're saying we should just give up. We just shouldn't just because so if the left is violent, then we just give up and I should never deport people again. It's like, what? This is like on the level if the cops just murdered some guy and you were like, yo, that's horrible.
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