“They Want CHAOS In The Streets"– Ron Paul On Empire Collapse, Censorship & The WAR On Liberty | PBD Podcast | Ep . 565

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What is Ron Paul's perspective on government intervention?

What you're talking about is so little. This is a big problem and you think you're going to change things?
Adam Sosnick 0:05
Congressman Paul.
Why don't we just open up the Constitution and read it?
Patrick Bet-David 0:11
Do you think President Trump and Musk are making progress in shrinking the government today?
I am not expecting the budget deficit to shrink this year nor the next year because there's too many people who have become dependent on it. So there'll be an emergency this year, believe me.
Patrick Bet-David 0:28
Has the enemy of the state changed and evolved from what it was in the 70s, 80s, 90s to who it is today?
The people that run our universities are not on our side. The education of our founding fathers is unbelievable. And there were no universities to brainwash them.
Patrick Bet-David 0:46
If the situation and the scenario happened that you're claiming, to get it to the levels that you'd like it to get to, it's a massive disruption to the system, no?
The damage has already been done. Bubbles have to burst. You better be prepared because that would probably cause a civil war.
Patrick Bet-David 1:02
You don't sound optimistic.
No, I'm the most optimistic person in the world.

Are Trump and Musk making progress in government reduction?

Adam Sosnick 1:15
Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. A handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here.
Patrick Bet-David 1:34
My son drives that. I don't think I've ever said this before. Today we have somebody who has developed, and he may not even know it, I'm sure he does, thousands of disciples of his because of what he's taught over the years. And every time he speaks, I was just sharing a story with Dr. Ron Paul earlier about what you and I, the first time we sat down together in Houston, and that stuck with me till today. It's an honor again to have you on the podcast, Dr. Ron Paul. How are you doing, sir?
Thank you very much, Patrick. Good to be with you again.
Patrick Bet-David 2:10
It's great to have you on here. So question, with everything that's going on right now, with all the policies that we're seeing, where you're seeing the deals happening with the Panama Canal and BlackRock, or Doge, Elon talking about the $100 billion in savings, or the tariff wars between Canada and China and U.S.

How does Ron Paul view the current economic and moral state?

Patrick Bet-David 2:31
and Mexico, with everything that is taking place, what are you most excited about and optimistic about, and what are you most concerned about?
Oh, boy. You know, the individual issues that you mentioned are secondary for me to the philosophy that motivates people to do things. So if somebody is a socialist or somebody is a libertarian, who motivated them? What have they read? Who has influenced your ideas? So I think right now what we're facing basically is the late recognition of how much trouble we're in. And, of course, they're once again saying, well, yeah, there's too much cover. We have to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. Well, I've heard those terms all the time over the years. Nothing really happened. But I think this time it's different because it's bigger. There's sort of a conclusive end coming because of the bankruptcy. And I used to talk about, well, there's a moral bankruptcy and a financial bankruptcy. And I would talk mostly financial because I was more interested in the monetary system and the debt.
But lately, I think I have been moved, not that I think there's a big difference between it because you can't separate the two, but I think the moral bankruptcy is what exists and has existed throughout all of history, good versus evil and the whole thing about natural law versus government law and all these things. These are the big pictures And where do people fit in on this? I try to simplify and say, well, are you an interventionist or not? And I can talk to you about where you want to intervene. Oh, yeah, I want to intervene and do this and that. Well, my view is that we as individuals, and especially if you're in government, you should be a non-interventionist other than to deal with people who are aggressive and causing trouble.
for telling people how to live, what to do, how to spend their money, how to draft kids and send them around and start wars and without declaration, all this stuff. There's a lot of interventionists. And guess who I think it is? I think there's just only two parties you ought to worry about, Republicans and Democrats, because they accept these principles.

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