Gov. Wes Moore: Trans Kids, Newsom's Failures & 2028 Dark Horse | PBD #791

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Previously titled “Wes Moore: The Democrats Last Hope? | PBD #791” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026

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What is discussed at the start of this section?

Patrick Bet-David 0:00
I got a bunch of things I'm going through this saying, wait a minute, is this guy a Republican or a Democrat? Member of the college Republicans at Valley Forge Military? When I ran for governor, I was not the Democrat's choice. Were you like underdog at the highest level? I was polling at 1% in my first poll. When you look at the current Democratic Party and you watch the positions they're taking, your son comes in saying he wants to transition. What do you do? Do you see Trump as your enemy?

What challenges did Wes Moore face as an underdog candidate?

Wes Moore 0:30
If you come after my people, if you say something against the folks in Maryland, will I respond? Absolutely. That's my job. You can come to Maryland to learn, but don't come here to lecture. This is a call you guys have. Yeah, but it turned into a back and forth on Twitter. crime, you'll typically hear Baltimore being the top five. Listen, I refuse to be a governor who's just giving thoughts and prayers and offering eulogies for eight years and not doing nothing about the violence. We're now seeing how Maryland's population is the fastest growing population we've had in Maryland in over a decade.
Patrick Bet-David 0:59
Your net migration isn't impressive. You're still ranked at the same place. 45th. I don't even know if it's a fair question to ask you. You're a governor. You run a state. Newsom runs a state. He's a governor. You've been able to fix the state. He hasn't been able to fix the state.

How does Wes Moore view his relationship with Trump?

Patrick Bet-David 1:13
What do you think has happened in the state of California with the way Gavin Newsom's led versus the way you've led?
Wes Moore 1:19
I can tell you about what we've done in Maryland and why it's working. You're going to play it safe?
Patrick Bet-David 1:23
You can't give me that answer. You're leading all of these guys. Governor Westmore in the house. We're doing this. We are doing this, man. I'm so happy to see you. Likewise. I want to say this because I said it off camera. I want to say it on camera. So anybody and everybody that brings up your name, who knows you, loves you. Okay, whether it's Stephen A. Smith, we're out there, it's like, Pat, I'm telling you, watch Wes, watch Governor Moore, Ray Lewis, he's, Ray Lewis is like, I'm telling you, he's the guy, I'm telling you. So, I mean, of course, you know, when it comes down to, you know, on the political side, you know, the philosophies, ideology, we'll have those conversations as well. But for me, Seeing guys that come up with one of the best stories out there.
Patrick Bet-David 2:10
One fun fact that you may not know this. You know we're born three days apart. Get out of here. You're three days older than me. You're October 15, 78. I'm October 18. He looks so much younger than me. No, no, no. Stop it. Stop it. And then when we look at the background, what you've done, bachelor's, John Hopkins University, first black governor in Maryland's history, paratrooper, White House fellow under Condoleezza Rice, captain and army 1998 to 2014, served in Afghanistan, 82nd Airborne. Cool. Southern Baptist, church going, received bronze medal, investment banker in New York. I got a bunch of things I'm going through that's saying, wait a minute, is this guy a Republican or a Democrat? I found something from old school telling me, member of the college Republicans at Valley Forge Military, 1998 yearbook.
Wes Moore 2:59
Well, you know what's funny, and I tell people this all the time, when I ran for governor, I was not the Democrat's choice. The Democrats, there were like 11 people running or whatever it was. And we had statewide elected officials. We had two Obama cabinet secretaries. We had the former head of the Democratic Party who was running for governor. And me, the guy who'd never run for office in my life. Were you like underdog at the highest level? True. I was polling at 1% in my first poll. I'm not voting was polling higher than Wes Moore. And so I was like the underdog of the underdog when I first started running. But I was like, but I'm not running to be, you know, to lead the Democratic Party. I'm not running because I take any party's talking points and just swallow them.
Wes Moore 3:46
I don't do that. And that's not my family's background. That's not my background.

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