The biggest dividing line in politics is arguably no longer right or left but to do with trust. There are those who broadly trust our institutions and our experts, and increasingly others who don’t trust any of these things, suspecting a ‘deep state’, a swamp, and a cabal of vested interests which are anything but ‘America First.’ That dividing line explains a lot about MAGA’s division on everything from the Epstein Files to US support for Israel’s war - and the decision to bomb Iran. And this week marks 24 years since 9/11 - the deadliest terrorist attack in US history. Tucker Carlson is about to release a documentary series with the tantalising tagline: “It’s time Americans learned what actually happened.” He joins Piers Morgan to tell us more about his theories and also lifts the lid on whether he apologised to Donald Trump over his comments on the Middle East. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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