You Are Not Data (Christopher West) on AI and the Soul | Ep. 595
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The pressing question of the day is what does it mean to be human? If the machine seems to be intelligent and we've reduced our humanity to intelligence, we're in trouble. Being bodies causes a hell of a lot of suffering. The voice of the enemy gets in there. I'll save you from that suffering. Salvation from the body. What's held out by Christ is salvation. Oh the body. AI is not itself the pro. Pope Leo is very clear on this, nor is AI a neutral technology. We should be very, very cautious of how AI is programmed to want us to personify it. What's the point? The point now what do I need to be on the lookout for? I'm gonna confess that I got frustrated with you here in this conversation. I got frustrated with you too.
Do you wanna tell me why or do you want me to start
Okay, let's just
pretend we're going. And they'll walk in and stop us if we're not. It's nice to have you back on.
How do Christopher West and Matt Fradd introduce the problem of personifying AI and define a βpersonβ?
It's good to be with you, Matt. As always. Does it feel awkward like we might not be recording? So how much do you want to put into this opening bit? No, I'm I'm
It's a good way to ease in because if I don't know we're recording, then we're just having a conversation. So And then if the cameras are rolling, that's great.
Pretty sure they are. That's the stopwatch right there. This is riveting content. So it's happening. See? Fifty two seconds in.
It is happening. Do you drink coffee? Uh I have become more of a coffee drinker, but caffeine makes me jittery.
Yeah.
And I have a funny story that really made me feel insecure. I was in your home country. in uh January, teaching one of my T. O. B. courses and um somebody was put in charge of just taking care of my day to day needs and if I needed a coffee runner or whatever. He says w first day he says, I'm going to the coffee s shop, what do you want? And I said, I'll take a um what did I say? Uh Iced decaf latte. And he just went. Really? In my face. And I was like, He says and then he says that is the girliest coffee drink I've ever Heard of. Why would what's even the point? Why don't you don't want the caffeine? You don't want the and I said, No, caffeine makes me jittery. He says, Well why do you drink coffee? And I said, 'cause I like the taste.
And he every morning he would give it to me, but he would give it to me with a little with a little look. And I don't know, it made me s made me feel a little insecure about my coffee choice, but who cares? That seems kinda rude. It was a little it was it was I don't he was trying to be playful. No, he was not trying to be playful. Australians are the worst. He was he thought it was the stupidest coffee drink that anyone would ever ask for. I mean you can get some
pretty girly drinks today at Starbucks. Like honey crunch, s swirl of the raspberry, whatever.
No, I've always liked the taste of coffee, but I'm I've never been a I need caffeine. In fact, I don't like the feel of caffeine. In fact this morning when we had breakfast I ordered A dirty chai. A dirty chai, and I forgot to say decaf, and I couldn't I didn't drink the whole thing because I'm I started to feel that.
So peop people often rem I'm hard left turn here. People often remember, right? You you ask them like where were you in September eleven or where were you at such and such a date? Do you remember when you realized what AI could do? Do you remember what AI was for the first time? Uh
yes, I do. I was again in your country. I was uh sitting with some friends, uh Byron and F Francine Perola in their living room and it was twenty twenty two or three.
Yeah.
And he was telling me about uh chat GPT for the first time and what it was doing. And It messed with me. I was like, oh my gosh. I mean, I had heard the term artificial intelligence for a number of years, but I had never
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the opening advertisement and why does the episode begin with a prayer promo?
0:00β1:43
2
How do Christopher West and Matt Fradd introduce the problem of personifying AI and define a βpersonβ?
1:43β6:14
3
Why does the host tell a coffeeβordering story and what does it illustrate about our relationship to everyday comforts?
6:14β13:49
4
What moment sparked Christopherβs first real encounter with ChatGPT and how did it change his view of AI?
13:49β1:21:13
5
What is the βbig pictureβ battle between good and evil that the speakers describe?
1:21:13β2:27:42
6
How do the hosts connect contraception to transβhumanism and the loss of the bodyβs purpose?
2:27:42β2:39:47
Speakers
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