Iran War Oil Shock, Anthropic Sues, and Market Wipeout Warning

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Peter Kafka 0:00
Chances are your favorite websites used to depend on Google for traffic and money. But that's not really working anymore. Now publishers are scrambling for new lifelines. Neil Vogel, who runs People Inc., says his company figured it out a couple years ago.
Kara Swisher 0:18
You would think, given what everyone said about us, that we would be the guys that would be doing the worst now. We're kind of the guys doing the best now.
Peter Kafka 0:24
I'm Peter Kafka, the host of Channels, the show about tech and media and what happens when they collide. You can hear my conversation with Neil Vogel now, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.
Kara Swisher 0:36
Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business takes everything you've got. And a lot of the tools out there that are supposed to make your life easier just aren't great at talking to each other. And that means you end up having to toggle between a dozen different apps and services just to keep the lights on. Enough of that. Now there's Odoo, the all-in-one, fully integrated platform that actually might help you get it all done. Thousands of businesses have made the switch, so why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's O-D-O-O dot com. Support for this show comes from Arthur Miller's Death of a Salesman. Now back on Broadway in what The Guardian calls this year's starriest revival.
Kara Swisher 1:18
Joe Montello directs this strictly limited engagement of the Tony and Pulitzer Prize winning masterpiece. It is a masterpiece. Declared the greatest American play by Kenneth Tynan. And he is right. And now The New York Times says it brings the whole theater alive. Vogue writes, Nathan Lane and Laurie Metcalf are our foremost theater actors. Christopher Abbott and Ben Ahlers represent the thrilling potential of a new generation. See you at the theater. Now in previews on Broadway at the Winter Garden Theater. It's always late, literally. I'm like so quantumly more important than he is. It's crazy. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.
Scott Galloway 2:02
And I'm Scott Galloway.
Kara Swisher 2:03
Scott, did we have a good time in Minneapolis?
Scott Galloway 2:05
Oh, that was wonderful. And thank you to the wonderful people of Minneapolis. I thought it was great. The community, you know, maybe we got not a representative sample. I'd like to think we got a representative, but the community seems very unified right now.
Kara Swisher 2:18
Yeah, absolutely. People drove from North Dakota.
Scott Galloway 2:21
Yeah, Duluth, wherever that is, or Iowa. We had a lawyer from Iowa come. Yeah, judge. By the way, shout out, we know who you are. There's this wonderful woman who's a lawyer in family court. She commutes seven hours a week. And she said that, excuse me, she said, judge, yeah. And she said we're her best friends.
Kara Swisher 2:39
Yeah, yeah, it was great. And people were great. The audience was great. Again, we have to thank Teen Danger. Raised a whole pile of money, which Scott matched, which was very generous of Scott.
Scott Galloway 2:49
More virtue signaling.
Kara Swisher 2:50
Yeah, that's okay. This is the Scott I like. This is the direction. This is the direction I like.
Scott Galloway 2:56
This is the way.
Kara Swisher 2:56
This is the way. We had a great time, and the audience was great. We had a great show. We talked to Governor Walz, who looks amazing. Very handsome. As he's leaving. That's the key. Everyone looks so much better when they leave things. You know what I mean?
Scott Galloway 3:08
Or they're on Ozempic. That's why we're descending into fascism, because Tim Walz should have gone on McGovie 14 months earlier. That's the difference between us and fascism. Okay. A GLP-1. Folks, if you're considering running for vice president and you're thinking about a GLP-1, get on it. The word is now. The word is yesterday.
Kara Swisher 3:28
Anyway, he looks great. We have no idea if he is. Let's just be saying that. Oh, come on. Okay, fine.
Scott Galloway 3:35
The guy who showed up.
Kara Swisher 3:36
Yes, he was very fit.
Scott Galloway 3:37
The guy who showed up looked like the old Tim Walls could eat him.
Kara Swisher 3:41
That is true. But let me tell you something. He's running, too. He told me he was running. And it goes along with it. It's a whole lifestyle.
Scott Galloway 3:47
They're always running. They're always running for everything.
Kara Swisher 3:48
No, no. Oh, you mean actually running.

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