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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: How is the Iran war impacting global oil prices?
I mean, they lie like there's no tomorrow.
Yes, of course. But hello, lots of people do. Lots of governments do. Oh, I don't know.
I think Iran takes it to a new level.
They do, but... But they are, when I say good, is they're good at it. They're very, they're all throughout all the various social networks. They're very, they did one the other day, which I was sort of fascinated by, where they put up your president is a pedophile, which was interesting. They've been at it for a long, long time. And they have used it often when there's stuff that pops up online.
It's either Russia or Iran, China to an extent, too. But really, Iran has used social media as one of the smaller—I mean, it is a smaller country than Russia or less powerful— And it has used social media to its advantage in ways that are really, of course, heinous, because it's conspiracy theories.
And you always find them somewhere in, they're at the top, everyone I ever interview in cybersecurity are at the top in cybersecurity issues, in propaganda, in conspiracy theories. And they have a very well-oiled machine throughout the world doing this kind of stuff, so.
Well, when the actual audit of social media is done, I think we're going to find that somewhere between 10 and 40% of comments and posts on geopolitical accounts or accounts of influencers is going to have originated from either the CCP, the GRU, or the RGC.
Yep, absolutely.
And this is what you do. You see a piece of content, and then you look at the comments to evaluate and shape your own view of that content. It's all gamed. Yeah, and it has a huge impact.
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