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OpenAI Trial "Soap Opera," ChatGPT's Stock Picks, and Remembering Ted Turner

08 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Ted Turner's legacy?

1.33 - 20.216 Scott Galloway

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20.356 - 39.96 Scott Galloway

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43.467 - 66.538 Kara Swisher

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Chapter 2: How are Warner Bros. Discovery, Paramount, and Disney performing financially?

66.518 - 82.485 Kara Swisher

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84.558 - 95.796 Scott Galloway

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96.016 - 112.101 Scott Galloway

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114.663 - 130.731 Kara Swisher

You know, I just was hanging out with goats calmly in Norway, and here I have to deal with this bullshit. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

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And I'm Scott Galloway.

131.867 - 132.789 Kara Swisher

Guess where I am, Scott?

132.969 - 133.309 Scott Galloway

Where are you?

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Anthropic partnering with SpaceX?

133.71 - 134.171 Kara Swisher

Norway.

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134.471 - 134.791 Scott Galloway

Really?

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134.952 - 136.233 Kara Swisher

I'm in Norway, yes.

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136.614 - 138.176 Scott Galloway

Are you in Oslo? Where are you?

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138.196 - 140.74 Kara Swisher

No, I'm in Bergen, which is beautiful.

141.1 - 143.884 Scott Galloway

That sounds like a speaking gig with some serious zeros on it.

143.924 - 153.477 Kara Swisher

I'm doing actually a favor. It's not a paid speaking gig. It's for this Nordic Media Days. They've been driving me crazy to come. The Norwegians are big on us, Scott.

154.679 - 155.5 Scott Galloway

We're big in Norway.

155.66 - 157.883 Kara Swisher

We're big in Norway. It's only 5 million people, but...

Chapter 4: What is the current state of the Elon Musk vs. OpenAI trial?

157.863 - 178.082 Kara Swisher

Anyway, it's this group of people that like all the different newspapers and broadcasts and podcasters and everything else. And they do this thing called Nordic Media Days. And the woman who runs it has been like peppering me for a long, long time. And so I have agreed to do it because I was in London, which I was also in London for Tina Brown's thing.

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Didn't contact me, didn't stop by, didn't say hi.

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181.367 - 183.65 Kara Swisher

I wrote you several times and you were in Hamburg.

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183.67 - 186.354 Scott Galloway

Didn't invite me for tea. I did. Didn't say hello.

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186.454 - 189.439 Kara Swisher

I invited you for dinner where I got to meet Idris Elba.

189.459 - 191.001 Scott Galloway

He just uses me to cash big checks.

191.161 - 196.769 Kara Swisher

No, this is such a lie. Would you like me to show the text? I'm in Hamburg. What kind of excuse is that?

Chapter 5: How effective is ChatGPT at making stock picks?

196.93 - 199.193 Kara Swisher

I'm in Hamburg. Were you in Hamburg?

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199.325 - 216.373 Scott Galloway

That wasn't Hamburg. I was eating sausage and having beer. I loved it. By the way, just going to Norway. I'm going to finish my story, but go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead. This leaks into your story. I don't know about you, I am much more liked or less disliked in Europe than in the US.

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216.513 - 225.147 Scott Galloway

I think it's because in the US, the moment you get assigned to some political party or not, 50 percent of America hates you. In Europe, they really don't care.

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225.127 - 229.658 Kara Swisher

Maybe they just don't know you well enough yet to hate you. Maybe that's where we are.

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229.718 - 230.982 Scott Galloway

That's fair.

Chapter 6: What are the challenges of using AI for investment advice?

231.944 - 233.568 Scott Galloway

I'm like, give it time. Give it time.

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233.628 - 262.065 Kara Swisher

Anyway, so I went to London to do this. Tina Brown does this really amazing cause around journalism. It's a great conference. where she puts together, it's for her late husband, Harry Evans, who was an astonishing journalist. And she brings together like amazing people. And so we, it was with Craig Newmark, Christiane Amanpour, and Don Lemon and I had a thing on stage.

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Don Lemon was in London? He didn't call me either. Guy uses me. He doesn't call me.

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266.773 - 274.547 Kara Swisher

He did, but you weren't available. Anyway, so don't, don't, because we asked you, don't even start. So I'm here.

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Chapter 7: How does retail investor behavior impact the stock market?

274.607 - 283.703 Kara Swisher

So they just said, can you fly up to Bergen, which was an hour and a half flight. And so here I am. It's beautiful. I have to say it's sort of the entry to the fjord area.

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283.683 - 293.982 Scott Galloway

Northern Europe in the summer is... It's cold today. Oh, but it's so... Beautiful. Everything, the light, the water, the sky at night. I mean, it's just incredible. It's beautiful.

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294.042 - 306.825 Kara Swisher

I just had giant shrimp. This fish up here is astonishing. And then I walked to the top of this fluggen, fluggen, fluggen, whatever. Everything reads like an Ikea piece of furniture here. And... in the Nordic areas.

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Chapter 8: What predictions are made for the future of AI and investment?

307.846 - 316.477 Kara Swisher

And up the top, this is in a funicular, I love a funicular. And then I get up there and there's goats up there, just hanging out, goats.

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317.098 - 333.982 Scott Galloway

Really? Yeah. As I set off, my goats can digest anything. My Great Dane cannot. If I feed my Great Dane 30 minutes early or late, it becomes literally a shit cannon roaming around the house, decorating fecal matter across. Okay. The most expensive items we have. So goats are not like my Great Dane layout, just so you know.

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334.002 - 336.266 Kara Swisher

Well, there was goat poop up there on the top of the mountain.

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336.286 - 339.573 Scott Galloway

They can eat anything. If you give it a tennis shoe, no problem.

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339.673 - 346.186 Kara Swisher

I know. It was really cool. I was like, you know when you're not expecting goats and then there are goats? It was like, I was like, oh, look, goats.

346.206 - 346.727 Scott Galloway

You like that?

347.027 - 349.07 Kara Swisher

I did. I was like, oh, this is cool.

349.41 - 351.533 Scott Galloway

You want to hear my Nordic story? In one second.

351.753 - 366.07 Kara Swisher

And then I'm going to go after the London thing, which is I had a lovely lunch with Christiane Amanpour when we heard the news about Ted Turner, but I'll get to that in a second. My little European jaunt, which I did ask you, to dinner at a fancy person's house where there are celebrities.

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