The Big Government Money Pipe Freeze
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What is the giant money pipe mentioned?
There is a gigantic money pipe. This unfathomably large hose through which hundreds of millions of dollars flow every single day. At least that's how we think of it. More officially at the Treasury, it's known as the secure payment system. the federal government basically runs through that money pipe. Almost 90% of all federal payments flow through it. Payments to Medicaid and Veterans Affairs and Customs and Border Protection. Payments to the Library of Congress, the SEC, the FCC, the FCIC. That's the Federal Crop Insurance Corporation. Congress allocates trillions of dollars to go to specific parts of the government. And when those parts of the government need a chunk of their allowance, they request it. And Treasury sends it through the old money pipe. And then a few weeks ago, the pipe, what's the way to put this, got frozen, I guess, partially frozen.
How did the Trump administration impact federal funding?
The Trump administration ordered a pause, a freeze on a huge chunk of federal spending on federal assistance, grants and loans and subsidies, that kind of thing. saying, basically, do not request your funds. All of those need to be reviewed. Then the courts blocked that freeze. But then, reportedly, some parts of the government were still not getting their money. Nobody seemed to know what was happening. And there have been enormous consequences amid all this confusion. Hundreds and hundreds of people lost their jobs. Clinics and daycares across the country don't know if they will have money to operate. Retirees fretted about getting their payments. But the United States is a country of transparency. And if you know where to look, there is a way to cut through all the confusion and peer deep into the giant money pipe for answers. Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Erika Barris.
And I'm Mary Childs. Today on the show, we go where to look. To that one place with the tiniest bit of information, of facts, in this chaotic stretch of federal action and freezes and unfreezes. We get a strikingly clear look inside the big money pipe through which most federal spending runs. And at some of the people and the programs on the other end of that pipe. Plus, a tool you can use right now if you want to follow along at home as this gigantic federal spending story continues developing and developing.
What tools can help track federal spending?
When everybody was running around trying to figure out what was happening with federal government money, apparently folks at the Brookings Institution, well, they were kind of running around too. Did they stop certain things?
Did they restart things? It just, it got very confusing and we didn't know what the answer was.
Lauren Bauer works for something called the Hamilton Project within Brookings. They're a nonpartisan group. They do policy research. And, you know, pretty tough to do policy research when you have no idea what is happening with federal spending. But Lauren remembered something, another chaotic moment, when she'd also wanted to check government spending.
And so I had experience from COVID with something that's called the Daily Treasury Statement.
The Daily Treasury Statement, the DTS if you want to sound really cool, is just one of a gazillion documents put out by the federal government.
How does the Daily Treasury Statement work?
In terms of popularity, it gets Googled way less than the Harmonized Tariff Schedule, but maybe slightly more than the Short-Term Cash Investment Report, so you know. Not popular. But what the daily treasury statement does is show how much money flows through the giant government money pipe every single business day. And Lauren thought the daily treasury statement might be the key to everything, to understanding this present moment of spending freezes and unfreezes and confusion.
You can imagine when there's this empirical question, did the Trump administration stop the flow of funds, that we had a resource here that nobody really knew about.
Can we look at the thing together and you, like, tell me about it? Sure. Let me show you what the actual website is. To be clear, the daily treasury statement is not a secret document. You don't need treasury clearance. You don't need to be a researcher requesting special access.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the giant money pipe mentioned?
0:06–1:05
2
How did the Trump administration impact federal funding?
1:05–2:48
3
What tools can help track federal spending?
2:48–3:44
4
How does the Daily Treasury Statement work?
3:44–8:09
5
What does transparency in government spending look like?
8:09–11:38
6
How did the Daily Treasury Statement become essential during spending freezes?
11:38–16:24
7
What was the outcome of tracking the federal money pipe?
16:24–16:38
8
Who benefits from tracking federal funding?
16:38–25:43