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Hounded

20 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Chapter 2: What are the early thoughts on the movie Hounded?

169.812 - 171.114 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

He jumped right in both feet.

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171.134 - 189.763 Will Friedle

Yeah, it wasn't, we got him from the pound, too. So he was fully grown. I told you about him. His name was, the pound gave us his name. They named him Bandit because he was like. Oh, he kept running away. That's right. He was stealing your passwords and taking off. Five, six months of it.

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189.803 - 207.478 Will Friedle

We had picked him up from the pound because we got, I don't know if it was the chip or whatever, but they definitely knew who to call at that point. But yeah, they called him Bandit because he was like a pound regular. So that was my first dog. And my first pet. I didn't have. You didn't have anything for that.

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I might've have like goldfish that, you know, the ones that last a week or whatever from a fair that you win from that one specific game. The ping pong, that was how teaching everybody how to play pong, the drinking game. We all started with fish. I might've had maybe one of those before, but he was my first pet. Okay, interesting.

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Chapter 3: How does the cast of Hounded compare to other DCOMs?

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And what about you? I had a gerbil named Charcoal when I was eight or nine, and then my brother got cats and the gerbil didn't last much after that. Yes. When do you think getting roadkill type animals as pets started? Well, why is it why gerbils aren't roadkill kind of pets? Where are they from and what do they do? It is true. It's just like they rebranded a rat. Can you cuddle a gerbil?

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You probably shouldn't. Right. Can you like all your gerbil or did it just stay in a cage? First of all, I've got to say just from a euphemism standpoint, nuzzle your gerbil sounds like something that we should put on a T-shirt immediately. So, yeah, let's just be honest with that this early in the morning, Sabrina, where your mind is going. I went like this.

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I mean, I really did like a whole like it was not like a. Uh huh. Oh, God, no. Oh, my God. There we go. That's the shade of red I'm looking for.

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Good morning, Sabrina.

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294.805 - 317.59 Will Friedle

I've missed you over the last couple of days. Well, speaking of pets, well, first of all, let's welcome you back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs, and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart, the waves tsunamis, and you nuzzled your gerbil. I'm Will Friedle. And I am Sabrina Bryan, surviving on this podcast as well. Yes.

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So leash up your dog and lock the side gate because this week's Magical Rewind, we're barking up, I'm going to say the wrong tree, in 2001's coming-of-age film, Hounded. As I guessed last week off the title alone, this one involves a dog. Actually, you did too. We were both like, it's got to be about a dog. Yes.

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But I would never have guessed it's also a weird kind of true crime drama and also a bizarre... physical comedy attempt. And we'll get into it. It was released on April 13th, 2001, and is often forgotten within the DCOM lexicon. We sometimes might not be the worst thing. We sometimes get a high school musical or a xenon to review.

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And then sometimes we're watching a movie that's long lost in the archives. And that's what we're watching with Hounded. And to be honest, that's a little surprising considering the cast is amazingly impressive and recognizable.

Chapter 4: What are the main themes and issues addressed in Hounded?

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And that's the truth.

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Yes.

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First off, as everybody likes to know, we are returning to the DCOM capital of the country. I'm going to say world, not even country, world. Salt Lake City, Utah for filming. One central location was the Magdalene Choir School campus, which includes a beautiful church built in 1909 and is the only cathedral in the U.S. under the patronage of St. Mary Magdalene.

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And it should come as no surprise it was produced by Don Shane, the man who connected Disney original films to Utah in the first place. A VHS was released for this one almost exactly one year after its debut on the channel. But critics also did not love this one back in 2001.

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And currently it is below 50 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, which I guess is still the kind of the benchmark is Rotten Tomatoes.

411.2 - 412.382 Sabrina Bryan

Yeah, the way to.

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I guess so. It's certified fresh and all this kind of stuff. But what do critics know in this case? I think a lot. But thanks to Disney Plus and lucky for the mission statement of our podcast, Hounded isn't actually lost. It is currently streaming on the studio's flagship streamer. You can watch it now or wait till we're done and see what we got wrong.

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Write down all the mistakes, then call 555-6569 and leave a message for us. If you take anything away from today's podcast, let it be that we want to hear from you. It's 99 cents the first minute, $62 each additional minute. And now let's get your voice modulators ready. It's time to kidnap a Pomeranian and get into the synopsis.

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In an attempt to foil his mean-spirited rival, high school student Jay accidentally kidnaps his principal's seemingly cute tiny dog, and it turns out to be a nightmare of a beast. Sabrina, what were your early thoughts on Hounded? Well, my early thought was I was, as you said, so excited about this cast.

Chapter 5: Why does everyone dislike the main character?

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At some point, though, you feel bad for the guy because everyone just hates him. Like, it's like no wonder he's a dick.

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Nobody likes you. The maid hates you. She's taking any reason to use you and beat you with a spatula. She hates you. Your wife doesn't seem to care about you either. No one likes you. Your father-in-law doesn't like you. The dog doesn't like you. Your students don't like you. Your son doesn't like you. I kind of don't.

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3171.26 - 3184.093 Will Friedle

I mean, I kind of understand why he's just walking around and it's a huge asshole to everyone because for real, everyone's mean to him in his life. The people he should be loved by. Exactly. It's like Oscar the Grouch. Why are you so mad? Maybe because everyone's a

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3184.073 - 3210.722 Will Friedle

to me and i live in a garbage can um yeah same thing but yes so uh she's panicking she hits him with the the thing she apologizes and tells him all about the pool house melee but ronnie hasn't noticed any issues in his room but eliza isn't sold she can't find her dog anywhere ronnie says the dog is probably just hiding eliza thinks it's much more sinister and is worried because without her medication camille has problems uh-oh and that's when i was like okay what are they doing

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So now we're back with Jay, who's just waking up from a nap and Camille is breathing down his nose and growling with these weird puppet that they're using for this dog now. Terrified, Jay begs the dog to calm down. But as soon as he moves, the dog chases after him, ready to bite.

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And so the dog we're supposed to understand is like it has split personality or bipolar or something where all of a sudden this dog that clearly loved him is now a sociopath. Crazy. And I was like, wait, what the hell is going on? So when Jay stumbles on a house plant, Camille lunges at him, just missing his head by inches, literally trying to kill him.

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Finally, he finds some protection by locking himself in a bathroom. And with a little different editing, I was like, is this now a horror movie? This is now Cujo. What the hell has just happened?

Chapter 6: What happens when Jay confronts Camille?

3255.505 - 3258.329 Sabrina Bryan

Get worse. It gets worse. It does.

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Well, so hours later, he's still in his bathroom sleeping in the bathtub. And Camille is absolutely clawed at the door that this dog that loved him. Eventually, the barking stops. So finally, Jay feels safe. He slowly exits the bathroom and the coast is clear. But the house is thrashed. He tiptoes around surveying the mass amount of damage.

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She even destroyed his dead dad's baseball glove, which for some reason that hurt. He had out in the living room. It might have been like something that was like on a shelf or, you know, displayed of some sort. That hurt. That hit me. I was like, oh no.

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That was tough.

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3292.539 - 3309.205 Will Friedle

But I was still like, why did they change the dog? The dog just loved it. Okay. Then he almost stumbles on a frozen Camille. She has fallen asleep on the carpet. So Jay quietly gathers some items, making sure not to wake her. Jay decides to cover the sleeping pup with a basket. And as soon as she starts barking, he sits on it, making sure she can't escape.

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and then uses electrical tape to secure the basket to the carpet, a strategy that has absolutely zero percent chance of working, but it's a decom, so it works for a bit of a time. And in another futile attempt, Jay places, of course, a vase or vase, depending on where you're from, filled with marbles on top, and that's not going to backfire at all.

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All else fails, just put a giant vase of marbles.

Chapter 7: How do Jay and Mike plan to deal with Camille?

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The next morning, Jay has reconvened with Tracy. He knows his brother's going to flip out about the house, so he kept the dog overnight taped underneath the basket.

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3342.259 - 3342.459 Sabrina Bryan

Yeah.

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3342.479 - 3362.986 Will Friedle

Is that right? Okay. Copy that. This dog at least doesn't seem like has used the restroom in hours and hours. Not only that, but he was also the sweetest dog in the world that just wanted to be rescued, which is what I thought it was. Now he's the craziest dog in the world. Yeah, so they need to return the dog but can't figure out how.

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Tracy suggests calling the Van Dusens with a mysterious voice and telling them he'll be leaving Camille in the park for pickup. So he does what all kids do. He goes and finds his voice modulator and dials them up. Ward answers, and then Jay performs what can only be seen as a hostage call for ransom. Instead of giving in, though, Ward tells the captor to keep the dog.

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3381.267 - 3395.001 Will Friedle

He doesn't want it, especially because he's allergic and he knows the dog doesn't have her medication. He hangs up, and Jay knows that he is screwed. And then he realizes Camille is no longer sleeping. He can't find her, but he knows she's somewhere. This has a real Jurassic Park vibe from it, hiding from the raptors.

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Eventually, just when he thinks he's safe, Jay is attacked by the flying Pomeranian. They wrestle and eventually Jay once again rushes off to the bathroom. And this is again, this is the scene from There's Something About Mary, where I was like, this is this. What are you laughing at? Because I just honestly, I thought it was so funny. I mean, this was sure.

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Yes, it's definitely, I will say one of the things is by this point, you are realizing this is definitely when the DCOMs are being catered to a young audience. Yes, yes, very much so. This is a young audience.

Chapter 8: What is the outcome of Jay's plan with Camille?

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And so when you kind of get in that realm of thinking, like this dog, it's a teeny tiny, like adorable little Pomeranian who has just lost its marbles. Right.

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And it's just great.

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3441.468 - 3463.181 Will Friedle

But then set it up like set it up where the dog hates everybody but the mom. So everybody that goes near it starts to growl. He then attaches himself to the back of Taj's bike and follows him home. And it's been a standoff the entire time. Don't make it to where the dog's awesome with Taj. Like he's want to sleep next to him. He's the nicest person in the world. God, I love this dog so much.

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3463.342 - 3487.257 Will Friedle

And then all of a sudden he gets crazy because then if you start him crazy and then Taj wins him over and becomes his one friend, it's a better arc for Taj. It's a better arc for the dog. It makes more sense. Whereas he's the sweetest dog in the world. He finally found a friend. Now he's insane. Yeah. Now he's friendly again. That didn't make any sense. And I get what you're saying.

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3487.298 - 3497.029 Will Friedle

The actual... And this is where Taj... You know, we keep talking about Shia. But this is where Taj is great. His physical comedy of wrestling the dog and jumping around from the dog, great. Yes.

3497.45 - 3498.21 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

Really good.

3498.471 - 3506.08 Will Friedle

And awesome in a DCOM. You're right. For younger people, if you're 9, 10, 11 years old, watching him wrestle this dog, must have been hysterical.

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Yeah.

3507.662 - 3534.152 Will Friedle

Pay it off. Build it up. You know, it's just from a story standpoint. It's like... Again, I know it's not written for 50-year-old guys, but still. But still, like you said, just in general, that's a better arc. That's a better win for Taj's character in the end of this psycho dog. I mean, especially because you set it up as a show dog. So when you watch cartoons with show dogs, what are they?

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