Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What insights does Gavin Newsom share about his childhood and family?
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Chapter 3: How does Gavin Newsom view Trump's actions regarding Iran?
I get it. I'm not naive about that. And so this was my opportunity to, you know, tell a different story and and also tell the story that my mom and dad deserved. So look, as you were saying, you clearly have a complicated relationship with your father. I can tell reading the book and in this conversation that you revere your mother and all that she did for you and all the sacrifice.
But I was struck by a comment made to you, I believe by your aunt Cindy, who said- Who's by the way here tonight, so let's be careful. She's a star in this book. Fascinating person. I'd love to meet Cindy. But no, I think she said to you that your parents' inattention to your dyslexia as a boy was abuse. And that was sort of a jarring thing to read.
And I was wondering how it felt to you to hear that and whether you agreed. You know, I was, and some of you may know this, most of you probably don't or won't believe it. I can't read speeches. You'll never see me, someone hands me a speech and I start to read it. I could do a teleprompter and it just takes dozens and dozens of hours for dozens of minutes.
And it's hard just sort of focusing on that written word, but allow spatially I'm able to just, you know, stare at the screen and I'm able to do it. And that's, you know, my entire life I've felt dumb. You're in the back of the classroom. You're struggling through school. And by the way, it wasn't just me struggling. And this, again, part of the process of writing the book.
I can't even imagine what it's like to be a mother, a single mom, trying to read your kids, trying to explain it's OK. I mean, my mom said something that I'll never forget. I really was angry about it. And I wrote about it in the book. She said, in a fit of frustration with me, she said, it's OK to be average. It's like, damn.
And I honestly, for years and years, I held a lot of resentment around that until, again, in the process of writing this over the last five years, I realized she just was saying, it's okay to just be you. You don't have to be someone you're not. You don't have to put that mask on. So, you know, my aunt saw it up close. She saw the struggle that my mom had.
She saw me running out of classrooms, running away from, you know, just constantly running and searching and struggling. And, you know, I just, I can't sugarcoat it. And anyone that's got a learning disability, I think you can appreciate this. But at the same time, you also start developing these superpowers because you start overcompensating for the things you can't do as well as everybody else.
And that has been the gift and the ability to you know, sort of absorb and create and look outside the lines and paint outside the lines, take risks. You have to take risks, learn from mistakes, have a resiliency. All of those things are also part of the journey of having a learning disability and having a learning difference.
And so I'm here because of it, despite some of those early scars that mark those moments in the book. I was going to ask, one thought I had when you were talking about, when you were writing about dyslexia is, how does it affect you writing? Was it a challenge writing the book? Well, the worst part was doing the audio of the book.
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Chapter 4: What is Gavin Newsom's perspective on the California gubernatorial primary?
And she was staring at me with a big smile. And she gave this beautiful speech, but she gave it just to Jen and the kids and her brothers and sisters because the attacks at the school. You know, I hate your daddy. I hate this and this and that. And we had this again. I mean, we all did. All had this. Protesters for almost a year and a half.
And now, to your point about what's happened, this is another level of stuff. And, like, trust me, you don't know an infinitesimal amount of the stuff that comes in. And that's why the temperature definitely, I mean, we have to take that temperature down. And I do worry about it. I mean, we talk about, you know, when you send troops to an American city, not overseas,
This sort of lack of civility and this concern that we all have, are we crossing those red lines? Are we at war with one another? And forgive me, because I know and forgot the long windedness, but we've had this conversation when I went on your podcast, because you were asking me about mine. And, thank you, the one of you. Please applaud. The man has a podcast. That's the sound of a download.
But I was, people felt I crossed the line because I was reaching across the aisle. Because I was making the case Bill Clinton made for years and years, divorce is not an option. We're just, you know, it's not. Just because I don't want you to exist doesn't mean you're not going to persist. And we just have to define the terms of the future.
And so I started reaching out to people I vehemently disagreed with. And a lot of folks were angry, saying, how are you platforming these people? Why are you talking to that son of a bitch? But it honestly was in my relationship to this reality. Man, we got to take the temperature down. You know, we can punch Trump back. We can have the line. But at the same time, man, you know...
We all want to be loved. We all need to be loved. We all want to be protected, connected, respected. And we've just got to move. You know, I appreciate the resistance frame, but I think all of us back to, you know, we want to talk about renewal. We want to talk about a rebirth of our civic, you know, spirit and civic pride and our civic duty. And we're all waiting for that moment.
That moment's going to come. I don't think it's here yet. You know, we're in this struggle. So many ways the obstacle is the way. Trump will define that. But all of us look forward to when we can turn the page on this moment and we can restore some civility and grace. So the epilogue of the book, you write a lot about your relationship with Trump, your interactions with Trump.
We could talk about it forever. We will not do that. I want to talk about my... tour with Trump in the bedroom in the first one? So the thing that Tommy and I really want to know is tell us more about the reaction on Jared Kushner's face when Donald Trump said in front of him and you that he wished Ivanka had married Tom Brady instead. Yeah. Seems kind of mean. Was he crying?
That's a weird thing to say to your son. I was crying for Jared. I thought, I mean, how could someone, it was so dehumanizing, in front of his own son-in-law, saying it wasn't his first choice. And if Trump can do that to his son-in-law in Marine One, in front of strangers, that sums him up, man. That sums him up. And it's an interesting, it's a fun little story where Jared,
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