Michael Strange has a healthy appreciation for complexity, diagnoses hype as antithetical to innovation and prescribes an interdisciplinary approach to making AI well. Michael and Kimberly discuss whether AI is good for healthcare; healthcare as a global system; radical shifts precipitated by the pandemic; why hype stifles nuance and innovation; how science works; the complexity of the human condition; human well-being vs. health; the limits of quantification; who is missing in healthcare and health data; the political-economy and material impacts of AI as infrastructure; the doctor in the loophole; the humility required to design healthy AI tools and create a resilient, holistic healthcare system. Michael Strange is an Associate Professor in the Dept of Global Political Affairs at Malmö University focusing on core questions of political agency and democratic engagement. In this context he works on Artificial Intelligence, health, trade, and migration. Michael directed the Precision Health & Everyday Democracy (PHED) Commission and serves on the board of two research centres: Citizen Health and the ICF (Imagining and Co-creating Futures). Related Resources If AI is to Heal Our Healthcare Systems, We Need to Redesign How AI Is Developed (article): https://www.techpolicy.press/if-ai-is-to-heal-our-healthcare-systems-we-need-to-redesign-how-ai-itself-is-developed/ Beyond ‘Our product is trusted!’ – A processual approach to trust in AI healthcare (paper) https://mau.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2%3A1914539 Michael Strange (website): https://mau.se/en/persons/michael.strange/ A transcript of this episode is here.

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