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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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I'm Ed Elson. It is February 26th. Let's check in on yesterday's market vitals. The major indices climbed ahead of Nvidia's earnings. More on that in a moment. Bitcoin bounced from recent lows, rallying back towards 70,000. The price of gold, silver, and platinum increased. And finally, Netflix rose 6% in its best day in more than a year.
That rally followed reports that Paramount's new offer may be good enough to win the bidding war for Warner Bros. Discovery. Okay, what else is happening? The world's most valuable company, Nvidia, reported earnings yesterday that beat expectations on the top and bottom lines. That was largely driven by data center revenue, which rose 75% year over year in the quarter.
Revenue projections for the current quarter also came in higher than investors had expected. Nvidia stock rose as much as 5% after hours, but then moderated during the call. Salesforce also reported yesterday, but those earnings had a very different outcome. The company's revenue grew 12% in the fiscal fourth quarter, which was its fastest growth rate in two years.
However, investors were disappointed with the company's revenue guidance, for 2026. That sent the stock down nearly 6% after hours. Joining us to unpack these earnings, we are speaking with Gil Luria, Head of Technology Research at DA Davidson. Gil, good to see you. I want to start with Nvidia here. Another incredible monster quarter. This keeps on happening.
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Chapter 2: What earnings did Nvidia report and why are they significant?
seem to be in real contention with one another. And I'm struggling to figure out which one is actually the dominant sentiment on Wall Street, which one is actually the right sentiment, which one is crazier than the other. And it's hard to sort of parse out what the price of these stocks are actually telling us at this point, because those are two, as you say, completely opposite stories.
I'd say that we've been living with that first type of anxiety, the, oh, the data center build out isn't going to get a return for several months. The software anxiety is more recent, but I'd say both are playing out in the market right now and causing a lot of fear. But I would actually posit that maybe that's about something bigger.
The fact that investors are so jittery right now is probably an indication that we've had a very long bull run, that there's concerns about the U.S. government and its policies, the geopolitics of our global relationships, our geopolitics of our trade policy that has to change every week now. And so I think the market is jittery. It's looking for bad news.
And now we have two opposing but compelling and scary stories that investors are telling themselves that are causing them to knock down stocks. I think that there is that layer of just overall jittery markets based on where we are from an overall macroeconomic and geopolitical perspective.
My instinct when I see these massive sell-offs is, I think, similar to yours, which is this seems to me an overreaction. This seems to me highly emotional and not nearly grounded in the reality that we're seeing on the ground and the data, not nearly enough. At the same time, I could also see someone saying, you're just sweeping these concerns under the rug.
It's convenient for you, especially you, Gil Luria, as someone who's in this industry, to say, it's not a big deal. People are overreacting. Things are going to be okay. Look how productive the technology is. What would you say to those people?
that I'm really not trying to sweep anything under the rug. I'm talking about we all have to make weighted probability decisions about potential outcomes. I'm just saying we're overbuilding data centers as a 10 percent outcome, the AI is going to run everything over in the next two years as a 10% outcome. And there's an 80% outcome that neither of those terrible things is going to happen.
And if that's the case, we need to look at what the investable opportunities are.
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Chapter 3: How did Salesforce's earnings differ from Nvidia's?
So one of them is Nvidia trading at 25 times when AMD and Broadcom are trading at 32 times with not as good of a business. Software, which for years traded on revenue multiples, which was always ridiculous. What does it even mean to be six times revenue or eight times revenue? That means nothing. Shareholders only get cash flows.
The value of a company is only the value of their future cash flows. All of a sudden, we're looking at this big universe of software companies on a cash flow basis, on an earnings basis. We have Microsoft at 20 times cash flow. We have ServiceNow and Dynatrace and Adobe trading at less than 20 times earnings or cash flow.
And we have super hyper growth companies like Snowflake and Datadog and Shopify trading at maybe 35 times cash flow. So those are actual real opportunities that the market has created because of the extreme scenarios. But I don't want to sweep them under the rug. They are potential scenarios. I'm just taking the weight and probability and saying...
I think there's 80% right up the middle that we're going to be fine, that AI enhances productivity in a way that makes software companies better, especially winners in software. Not every software company. There'll be plenty of software companies that fail, but the good ones will win, and those are more attractively priced than they've ever been.
All right, Gil Luria, Head of Technology Research at DA Davidson. Gil, thank you for taking us through this. Thank you, Ed. After the break, what you didn't hear in Trump's State of the Union. And for even more markets insights, you can subscribe to my weekly newsletter, Simply Put, at edwardelson.substack.com. We're back with Profiteer Markets.
In the longest State of the Union address in history, President Trump said the nation has achieved, quote, a turnaround for the ages. He celebrated the strength of the economy, claiming that inflation is, quote, plummeting. It's not true. And incomes are rising fast.
Trump also touched on new initiatives, including the Trump investment accounts and a pledge to make big tech cover its own electricity needs. While domestic issues dominated the speech, Trump did briefly touch on foreign policy as well. He claimed that he's ended eight wars and warned that Iran is rebuilding its nuclear weapons program.
He also briefly acknowledged the, quote, unfortunate ruling from the Supreme Court that deemed the tariffs illegal, Earlier that day, his new 10% global tariff rate officially went into effect. So here to discuss the State of the Union, we're speaking with Ian Bremmer, founder and president of Eurasia Group. Ian, thank you for joining us on Property Markets.
So this State of the Union, Trump spoke for a record 107 minutes. Lots to unpack here. Let's just start with your initial reactions. What stood out to you?
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Chapter 4: What does Gil Luria think about the current AI anxiety in the market?
I've never seen that happen in the State of the Union before. And there the Supreme Court justices are, and people that he appointed voted against his signature policy because it was clearly illegal. And he was told by members of his cabinet, this is illegal, sir. You don't need to do this. You can actually do these tariffs in other ways and you're not going to get hit back.
And he refuses to listen. That is uniquely batshit crazy. It's an own goal. And now he's got to deal with the consequences of that makes him weaker.
And he seemed quite sheepish about that as well. He seemed quite sheepish about the tariffs. He was mentioning things like the border over and over again, didn't really seem to mention the tariffs at all, which is interesting because, as you say, that is the centerpiece of the policy, and it's the biggest news of the week.
I would also love to get your reactions to the tariff policies that we've seen, the decision from the Supreme Court. Now we've got the 10% tariffs. He says he's going to bump it up to 15%. As the foreign policy expert, what does this mean for other nations? What does this mean for foreign governments, if anything?
Well, the reason he did not want to do it this way, aside from the fact that he's undisciplined and impatient, is that it gives him maximal, unchecked, unilateral authority to place tariffs on anyone, not only any country, but frankly on pretty much any company, any sector, for whatever reason he chooses, which the president just doesn't have the right to do.
because now he still has tariff authority and that tariff authority will absolutely allow him to put these tariffs on most of these countries at pretty much the same level, but it is going through an investigative process which allows those countries to then respond.
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Chapter 5: How are investors reacting to Nvidia's dominance in AI?
And that process is precisely what Trump wanted to avoid. So it constrains him more. It turns out that the American president is not Xi Jinping. He's not Vladimir Putin. And it's not only because he has midterm elections, though that is one pretty significant component, but it's also because there's an independent judiciary.
And even if it's 6-3 conservative, and even if he appointed a bunch of them, it turns out that they actually follow the law as opposed to the president. And he doesn't like that. but it is the reality. And that is good for the corporations. It is good for the markets.
And you'll note that when the Supreme Court did its ruling, even though it was an extraordinary and historic ruling, the markets didn't really move. And the reasons they didn't move is because this was well expected and anticipated by those of us that have been following this. You don't have to be brilliant. You just have to be reading to understand that it was never going to be allowed.
In fact, the only surprise is whether it was going to be 6-3 or 9-0. 6-3 is not a surprise precisely because we've seen many instances where the law was equally clear against Biden, where it was 6-3 in the other direction. All of these, you know, major questions, issues that Biden was pushing up against illegally and the Supreme Court whacked him down.
But the most liberal appointees chose not to align with the majority. That's an unfortunate reality of some degree of politicization of the Supreme Court justices, but ultimately doesn't undermine the institution in my view.
Final question here. We have to ask you, while we have you, we rarely get to speak with you on this program. He said he ended eight wars. That was the claim. And then he listed a bunch of countries. He said he ended wars in Israel and Iran. And then he said he's ended the war in Gaza, but then said it's slightly progressing. I forget his exact language. What do you make of that claim?
Is it right? Is it wrong? If so, how wrong?
It's, you know, has elements of correctness. You know, Imoti refused to give Trump credit for bringing about the ceasefire. In reality, he and his administration, particularly Marco Rubio, also J.D. Vance at the margins, played a significant role, not unilaterally, but played a significant role in helping to get those two sides to ceasefire. It is unfortunate that Modi gave him no credit.
It is ludicrous that the Pakistani prime minister says he should get the peace prize, but the reality is somewhere in between. Armenian, Azerbaijan, he has advanced the cause of peace, but the two sides were not actually fighting when he got engaged. It's a lot easier to end a war when they're not fighting. The case of Israel and Gaza, I give Trump a lot more credit.
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