Eventually I'd have to disappear Podcast on the traces we leave behind as artists, and how to work with them ethically, philosophically, artistically. Chapter four with Peggy Bouva and Maartje Duin. Dieuwke goes to Pakhuis de Zwijger to talk to Peggy Bouva and Maartje Duin, who collectively worked on the podcast ´The plantation of our forefathers´. Their conversation is about their working process and the difficulties with the archive, and rewriting your history by seeing all perspectives and all narratives. Also in this chapter: my own reveries on personal history and the gaps in it, and again, the amazing music of Warner Slump. Credits Music and sounds: Warner Slump; Keti Koti Memorial Day Zoetermeer: Pakhuis de Zwijger Made possible by ArtEZ Studium Generale Special thanks to Dennis Gaens and Joke Alkema http://www.dieuwkeslump.com/

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