5 On It & Joel Lorenzi talks Bulls' mindset ahead of trade deadline (Hour 3)
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What recent news is impacting the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting?
According to ESPN, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, like his former head coach Bill Belichick, was not selected for entry into this year's Pro Football Hall of Fame class. Are Hall of Fame voters holding a grudge against the Patriots? I guess they are, aren't they? Because how else do you explain all of this? Based on football success, that would indicate that Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft are first ballot Hall of Famers. And given the team's success and the dynasty that they created, and this really does feel like a situation where perhaps... You know, they remembered and the voters remembered. And if they didn't see that there was justice served by the NFL, they feel like they are serving the justice at the Hall of Fame level.
The problem is the justice wasn't served at the NFL level. And because of that, they are doing this, I think, improperly. You have to go based on record. It's not necessarily based on merit. If we had a character judgment of the Hall of Fame, we might be here a while. I understand the concept, but your beef is really with the league and the fact that the governing body did not want to govern. And when that is an issue, you've got to take it up with the right authorities.
Are Hall of Fame voters biased against the Patriots?
But this certainly feels like some sort of blacklisting is involved. Yeah, see, I completely disagree with that. I think it is a flawed voting process. This is completely on the Pro Football Hall of Fame and what they ended up settling on is the way people get involved put into the Hall of Fame. Understand this. This is a new voting experience in 2025 that actually pitted Kraft against Belichick against the other people because now you have five finalists amongst the contributors, coaches, and senior players who last appeared in a game in 2000 or earlier. So Kraft was the contributor finalist, singular. Belichick was the coach, singular. And then the others were the former players, Roger Craig, Ken Anderson, and Elsie Greenwood.
So now when you understand the process, 50 voters, you only get three votes, and then between one of the three need to get 80% or 40 of those votes. And there's a possibility that none of the candidates get 40 votes. And if that happens, simply the top vote getter gets elected. It is a flawed process. I think we're reading way too much into it when we say, oh, people got a grudge against the Patriots.
What is the significance of the new voting process for the Hall of Fame?
No, it's just an impossible process. Because some of those guys that we talked about, whether it's Roger Craig, Ken Anderson, or Elsie Greenwood, if they don't make it, they don't get another shot at this. So that starts dividing the vote up. And that's where you end up with the mess and the sham that this process is at its current state. It's hard to argue against Roger Craig. It is. It is, especially, and you made a great point, Marshall. There were voters, and some have been public about it, who said they did what they had to do because it's last call. We all know Bill Belichick is going to get in. That voter knew it. Other voters who had that conundrum knew that. But I will say, I do think in some cases, and we don't know, we just don't know what every single voter was thinking or how they were rationalizing it.
But I think both things can be true, maybe to a lesser degree. There probably are some people who are holding a grudge. and I don't even know if grudge is right because and I haggle over this some people say it's the part of the morals clause in there that you don't cheat to me I look at it a little bit higher as in it's illegal to cheat like that's not a moral issue that's illegal in a game where millions and billions are being made where you have gamblers you have players you everybody that has a stake in this to call it a moral issue the cheating I don't think it is so in other words If there are voters who said, okay, as a one-off, I'm going to get all moral here and high and mighty and all of that.
I understand that. I wouldn't have done that, but I would understand where they were coming from because cheating is illegal. Roger Craig.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What recent news is impacting the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting?
0:02–1:28
2
Are Hall of Fame voters biased against the Patriots?
1:28–2:36
3
What is the significance of the new voting process for the Hall of Fame?
2:36–4:32
4
Which Bulls player is likely to be traded before the deadline?
4:32–6:02
5
What factors are influencing the Bulls' trade decisions?
6:02–7:20
6
How does the hiring of Matt Nagy affect the Giants' coaching strategy?
7:20–8:50
7
What are the implications of the Memphis Grizzlies' recent trades?
8:50–9:59
8
What should fans expect from the Bulls as the trade deadline approaches?
9:59–41:25
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