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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Ben Johnson on his 'F--- the Packers' comment: 'I don't like that team'

12 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What sparked Ben Johnson's 'F--- the Packers' comment?

0.031 - 13.632 Leila Rahimi

This is Rahimi Harrison-Grody on 670 The Score.

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13.792 - 25.61 Mark Grote

Every single thought I have of Tyler Buterbaugh's return music, I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is appropriate. These are the appropriate questions to ask all those Packers fans up there.

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26.591 - 27.793 Marshall Harris

How does it feel?

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28.246 - 33.356 Leila Rahimi

You're a beaut. You know that, Tyler? You are. It's literally his name. Absolute beaut.

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34.478 - 35.059 Mark Grote

I love it.

35.08 - 35.861 Leila Rahimi

I like your Bears hat.

35.921 - 46.963 Mark Grote

I just want to know how they're feeling today. And all those dudes who do that fake play-by-play stuff. And there's some radio station with props up there. Give it to them, Baylor! How are they all feeling? I just need to know.

48.057 - 50.983 Marshall Harris

I just know they didn't enjoy living in the fast lane.

51.143 - 53.588 Leila Rahimi

They're living in the not known now.

Chapter 2: How did the Bears' playoff win against the Packers impact team morale?

176.106 - 188.239 Leila Rahimi

I mean, and just Layla mentioned the McVay stuff. Apparently, Ben Johnson just went on and on and on about how much he loves Sean McVay, loves Matthew Stafford. So we're not going to get the same back and forth.

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188.259 - 189.3 Marshall Harris

So it wasn't the Matt LaFleur treatment?

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189.341 - 193.405 Leila Rahimi

Is that what you're saying? No, did not get the Matt LaFleur treatment. I think he truly looks up to McVay.

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193.385 - 201.645 Marshall Harris

Can I ask the hypothetical, though? If it was McVay and company in Green Bay Packers uniforms, don't you think that same energy would have been kept by the head coach?

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201.805 - 207.9 Mark Grote

I mean, George McCaskey did program rookies, for God's sake. He radicalized his team.

208.083 - 229.939 Leila Rahimi

I will say this quickly, and I know we'll hear more from Ben. Ben is the best at handling this rivalry since Mike Ditka. No other coach since Ditka actually fueled this. They all said what they had to say. Lovie Smith famously on the first day, our number one goal is to beat Green Bay. But there has been no coach since Mike Ditka who has felt this rivalry the way Ben Johnson has.

229.919 - 236.441 Mark Grote

Oh, you mean like the previous head coach sitting courtside at Marquette during a game, for example?

236.622 - 240.435 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would not be something that Ben Johnson would do.

240.685 - 248.835 Mark Grote

He wouldn't sit like Matt Iverflus did next to Matt LaFleur just hanging out for several hours at a game.

Chapter 3: What does Ben Johnson reveal about the rivalry with the Packers?

354.42 - 359.846 Mark Grote

Or like the show. You're like, show produces itself today. Coach produces the angles himself today.

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359.866 - 366.753 Leila Rahimi

It's true. I don't have to worry about it. I could back off. I could do my job part-time. You know what I mean? The stirring.

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366.773 - 369.596 Marshall Harris

And based on what he's saying, the point is this.

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369.636 - 370.457 Mark Grote

Part-time stirring, Mark.

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370.437 - 378.649 Marshall Harris

It's going to continue in this fashion and manner, and he's going to try to kick in the teeth of the Green Bay Packers at every turn.

378.97 - 380.552 Mark Grote

It needs to be a rivalry.

380.893 - 403.96 Leila Rahimi

Yes. Oh, it's beautiful. That's what I'm saying. I was thinking about that as I was walking home from Soldier Field, at whatever time it was, as I was walking back home, I was thinking about how he just... There's a genuine... And the players... Usually we just sort of make that up, like these two teams don't like each other. Those two teams don't really like each other.

404.402 - 408.797 Marshall Harris

The DJ Moore post-game interview from the first victory over the Packers, that took...

409.013 - 438.987 Leila Rahimi

always always wait till you hear inside i of course was inside the locker room after the game later on you are gonna hear some stuff from kevin byard like you've never heard kevin byard let me just say i will just preview this he heard every single thing that was coming out of green bay during the week he was quoting guys he was name checking people and he was using some colorful language so we'll i'll take you inside the locker room a

Chapter 4: How does Ben Johnson feel about the emotions in the locker room?

533.41 - 551.153 Ben Johnson

When I turn on the tape and I see a few things, particularly in our passing game, that weren't the way that we had talked about over the course of the week, sometimes you do need to get a little bit fired up just to make sure that the point gets across and that we play better going forward. So I don't shy away from that part of it.

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551.553 - 562.317 Mark Grote

Can we pause it there? Yes. Does that make the attitude he had at Hallis Hall this past week after what happened against Detroit make more sense?

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563.239 - 587.532 Marshall Harris

I think so. I think what we're learning when we kind of peel back the curtain as we go backstage at Hallis Hall, maybe, or Soldier Field, that... This coach is connected to this team and vice versa in a way that even if we don't understand something in real time, you're getting kind of an understanding of where they're coming from and who's got who's back, which is everyone's got everyone's back.

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588.032 - 596.122 Marshall Harris

And that even as he's trying to explain why Caleb might have been going off on the sidelines, that's what Ben Johnson's doing behind closed doors.

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596.142 - 617.424 Leila Rahimi

I had... Zero problem. Zero problem with Caleb Williams going off in that moment. You know what? I trust that guy enough that he has control of this offense. He has earned that right to do that. And if anybody thinks that that's the wrong thing, the wrong way to act on the sideline, I think you are wrong.

617.685 - 627.295 Leila Rahimi

I assume he was mad about the Luther Burden miss in that moment right there, not being in the right place. Caleb has earned the right to do that. I loved that he did that.

627.275 - 628.858 Mark Grote

I wish he'd do it on the microphone.

629.359 - 631.163 Leila Rahimi

Yes, I would allow for that as well.

631.343 - 640.322 Mark Grote

I mean, I get it. You're not going to throw Luther Burton under the bus and we don't want you to because it was pretty obvious what happened. But for an example, yeah, I wish he would do that more with us. Let's resume.

Chapter 5: What insights does Ben Johnson provide on coaching and player relationships?

767.831 - 772.158 Ben Johnson

You tell me. What did you think? I think he hit 16 miles an hour, didn't he?

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773.039 - 781.511

Pretty good. Then you hear F.D. Packers comment that he can't have the game. It's kind of gone viral since then. What do you make of that?

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781.952 - 786.679 Unknown

I guess how much has George McCaskey maybe given his feedback on that, maybe embraced it?

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787.672 - 809.094 Ben Johnson

Yeah, I mean, like I said before, there's a rivalry that exists between these two teams, something that I fully recognize and I'm a part of. And, yeah, I mean, I just don't like that team. So George and I have talked, and we're on the same page. He's awesome. He's the greatest Bears coach ever.

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809.114 - 816.582 Mark Grote

Number one, the more he talks and the more actions I see, why do I get the feeling he's like Adam Studzinski's older brother?

816.562 - 820.59 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, name your meatball. He's Tyler Ferengel's cousin. I don't know.

821.572 - 829.408 Mark Grote

Seriously, there's some sort of unbottled energy there. Why do I feel like he reminds me of that guy?

829.428 - 846.716 Leila Rahimi

George McCaskey created this monster. With all due respect to George McCaskey, and I love George McCaskey. He can't say it, and I know they don't like the F-bombs dropping out there. I get it. I've talked to George about that before. But guess what? You've won seven playoff games since 1985. Let the F-bombs fly.

846.817 - 858.554 Marshall Harris

No, not only that, but if he's Frankenstein and Ben Johnson is his hired monster, the lightning is hit, and you ain't going to be able to control everything that happens. You wanted a certain thing to happen. You've now won a playoff game.

Chapter 6: How does the media react to Ben Johnson's comments?

919.02 - 931.479 Mark Grote

We've won all these games and X, Y, and Z. But then again, I feel like LaFleur did feel that way. But now I'm just like, yeah, the Bears should be this way. You haven't been here in 15 years.

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931.499 - 940.418 Leila Rahimi

Right, and it's not lip service anymore. It's been lip service since Ditka, and now it's back on. The approval rating, I just looked it up, 97% approval rating for Ben Johnson right now.

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940.438 - 941.42 Mark Grote

How many bears is that?

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941.581 - 948.134 Leila Rahimi

Oh, my God. Wow. I don't even know how to... I mean, I guess, does he... 9.7 bears?

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948.534 - 951.138 Marshall Harris

You've got to leave room to win a Super Bowl or something.

951.158 - 952.4 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, 9.7. How about this?

952.42 - 954.503 Mark Grote

The Pope has 14 because he's the Pope.

954.603 - 966.54 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, because he can have as many bears as he wants, the Pope. Some people say he's willing this all to happen. For the season, I'm giving Ben Johnson 9.5 bears. He has a chance to make that 10, and you all know how he can do that.

966.82 - 967.461 Mark Grote

Yes, Ray?

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the Bears' rivalry with the Packers moving forward?

967.441 - 988.466 Ray

I just wanted to add one thing that I don't know if it may have gotten lost in our excitement over hearing Ben Johnson talk about the F the Packers comment and his exuberance over it. But at the end of the quote, he says of George McCaskey, he says, George and I have talked and we're on the same page. I just want to make sure that that's out there and that is not missed.

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988.486 - 990.208 Mark Grote

George radicalized him.

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990.188 - 994.726 Marshall Harris

And then he radicalized George. Exactly. Exactly. All right.

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994.746 - 999.665 Mark Grote

Well, we're going to continue this inferno of mutual radicalization. Oh, man.

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Chapter 8: How does Ben Johnson's leadership style differ from previous Bears coaches?

999.685 - 1002.797 Mark Grote

Next here on Rahimi Harrison-Groney. More from Ben Johnson on the score.

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