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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Danny Parkins: Caleb Williams is the most talented quarterback in Bears history (Hour 4)

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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65.236 - 89.478 Danny Parkins

Danny Parkins. QB1 party. All are invited. Host of Fox Sports 1's First Things First. It's a heartbreaking ending to the most enjoyable Bears season of my life. I was born in 86. I'm not there for 85. They went to the Super Bowl in 06. NFC Championship game in 2010. But in terms of you have the coach, you have the quarterback, and they're going to be there for a decade.

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89.498 - 95.764 Danny Parkins

This was so unbelievably exciting. The Bears, plenty of reason to doubt them. Caleb Williams? No.

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Former host of 670 The Score before he abandoned us. That's a Caleb Williams custom, baby.

101.493 - 103.837 Danny Parkins

Jersey number one is going to the Raptors.

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You guys made it seem like at Chicago Bears fans we had our guy, Danny Parkins, all these guys.

109.567 - 112.151 Danny Parkins

Danny Parkins on 670 The Score.

Chapter 2: Why is Caleb Williams considered the most talented quarterback in Bears history?

253.884 - 266.837 Mark Grote

Yeah, no doubt, man, and it is. It's heavy when you get a compliment from somebody like Terry Boris. I totally get what you're saying. I also don't want to hear about your back surgery. So, yeah, I'm totally in line with that. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah.

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266.857 - 278.017 Danny Parkins

Yeah, I get it. I just, you know, I've... It's part of your story. Trying to be relatable. Trying to be vulnerable, but feel free to stomp on it.

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278.197 - 279.741 Mark Grote

I'm glad your back's okay, Danny.

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279.761 - 283.528 Danny Parkins

You're an old guy with a cat, so you can't handle any of those.

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283.548 - 287.196 Mark Grote

Wow, shots fired. Danny, I am sorry about your zigzag back, okay?

287.176 - 296.242 Danny Parkins

Does that make it better? Listen, it's just like a traumatic thing that happened to me in my formative years. It's not a big deal. We don't have to talk about it if it makes you uncomfortable.

296.362 - 305.403 Mark Grote

Well, if this makes you feel better, I was referred to today as a boomer. Because if you're over the 37 years of age, you're a boomer.

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37 seems very arbitrary, by the way.

307.366 - 329.738 Mark Grote

I don't know, 40. Okay, 41. If you're over the age of 41 and you have a take that's a little old school, and it wasn't really even a take, which I guess could lead us into, I was going to go a different direction, but now here we are. Here we are. What I brought up, Danny, was because, and I'll let Marshall talk here. We did a full hour today, Danny, on the following question.

Chapter 3: What insights does Danny Parkins share about the current state of the Bears?

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Point blank, period. Sid Lugman, of course, is the most accomplished quarterback that the Bears have ever had, but much like the T...

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offense the model t gone out of style those things are old and decrepit and we're talking about the current nfl and certainly in my opinion caleb williams has shown himself to be the best player to play the position and i brought up danny the just to bring a full circle and the boomer reference i said of course i'm not necessarily saying marshall is wrong but you have to bring up guys like jim mcmahon

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371.517 - 382.674 Mark Grote

You have to bring up guys like Jake Cutler just to do a little cross-checking and a little bit of debating. But where do you stand on Marshall's definitive statement?

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383.996 - 386.319 Danny Parkins

I mean, he's obviously objectively correct.

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387.581 - 392.649 Mark Grote

By the way, I predicted that. That's the only prediction I've gotten right this year, that Danny would agree with Marshall.

393.23 - 411.953 Danny Parkins

Well, hold on. Listen, when people have these conversations... And they're great. Sports radio, barbershop, whatever. I do think it is relatively instructive to talk about what we're talking about here. Tom Brady is considered the greatest quarterback of all time. People don't really dispute that.

412.439 - 435.669 Danny Parkins

I don't find that conversation to be quite as interesting because it is just a measurement of accomplishments. It's just like I'm looking at your trophy case. Now, if you were saying, who is the most talented quarterback of all time, I find that a little bit more interesting because it brings in skill set and some nuance. Jim McMahon... Yeah, he has a Super Bowl and Caleb Williams doesn't.

436.551 - 454.242 Danny Parkins

But is that the only art? Because he obviously is not more talented than Caleb Williams. We can't put Sid Luckman into perspective because none of us were alive to know anyone who was alive to watch the guy play. Right, exactly. Obviously, that's hyperbolic. But you understand what I'm saying? Yeah.

454.222 - 480.33 Danny Parkins

Modern era football as we understand it, Caleb Williams is clearly the most talented player the Bears have ever had to play the position. And how about this? Touchdown to interception ratio to start a career. First 34 games of a career. First basically two seasons of playing since 1970. Lamar Jackson... 47 touchdowns against 9 picks.

Chapter 4: How does Danny Parkins compare Caleb Williams to past Bears quarterbacks?

1318.973 - 1331.151 Danny Parkins

But then you have to be able to come out and stand on that argument. And you have to explain where in the bylaws of the Hall of Fame they are asking you to weigh that.

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1331.131 - 1335.778 Mark Grote

Shouldn't that be implied, though? No, no, I'm with him on this. You shouldn't cheat.

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Because baseball does have the morality clause.

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1340.585 - 1351.3 Danny Parkins

If baseball did not have the morality clause, you think Bonds would be in, right? Yeah. Right. So he's out because of the morality clause.

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1351.28 - 1365.66 Mark Grote

I don't know. Is cheating a moral issue? Absolutely. Isn't it borderline illegal too? And I get it. We're parsing words here. Cheating is illegal, right?

1366.201 - 1395.419 Danny Parkins

But they punished him. They punished him. They didn't say in their punishment and this should be considered. And again, if a voter, if 11 voters want to come out and say I didn't vote for Bill Belichick because of Spygate, fine. You know what I mean? Fine. But just come out and say it. Don't hide behind it or not answer for it or claim that you forgot. Just make your case.

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Make your case to the public.

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Danny, you are a great Parkins, like you always are. Thank you for coming on the show.

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Thank you for being on the right. Right side of history, by the way.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Caleb Williams' performance for the Bears' future?

1872.522 - 1891.776 Mark Grote

It's duration. It really is because he was unbelievable. He was a blast of a player, but it didn't last long. It's like the best comp I could give you here is like Gale Sayers. who played for, what, six years in the NFL? And he was a slam-dunk first ballot Hall of Famer because of the work that he did within those time frames.

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1891.796 - 1896.187 Mark Grote

So there's a little bit of that, though, with Derrick Rose where people might make him wait.

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1896.908 - 1911.185 Unknown

Yeah, if Derrick Rose had never played again after he got hurt, I don't even know if we're having this conversation in the same way, but you had a lot of years of Derrick Rose off the bench, Derrick Rose in a secondary and a role where he wasn't one of the best two or three players on his team.

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And that shapes how you remember him because that's the last way of remembering him if you're not, say, from the city of Chicago. But ultimately, it's the Basketball Hall of Fame. The bar is very low.

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1921.881 - 1944.826 Mark Grote

One more cut I want to play from Reggie Miller on the Dan Patrick Show, and that is talking about Derrick Rose's legacy. And it's weird to say this, that he may mean more to Chicago because he was local than Michael Jordan. Like, Jordan gave you the titles, gave you all of that, but Derrick Rose, local, one of your own in becoming a league MVP and, you know, a Hall of Famer.

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Born and bred. At some point, that's why LeBron was so loved and then became so hated because he was born and bred in Ohio. Played high school and was obviously drafted by them. And then they felt betrayal when he left and took his talents to South Beach, but made up for it by coming back and winning them their only championship. You're right.

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In terms of pecking order, yes, Michael Jordan, he has all the accolades, fantastic. But to me, the two people I will always think about in Chicago, number one, Derrick Rose, Isaiah Thomas, too. I mean, when you think of Chicago basketball, a lot of times his name doesn't get mentioned. Isaiah needs to be mentioned as one of the great Chicago athletes of all time.

2000.393 - 2020.545 Mark Grote

I think that's very respectful and knowledgeable of Reggie Miller to say something like that, to understand how much Derrick Rose means to Chicago, and he means a ton to Chicago. He has gotten the benefit of the doubt in every way, shape, or form because he is from Chicago and celebrated like a Chicagoan.

2020.525 - 2037.201 Mark Grote

Michael Jordan is the person you should always think of when you think of Chicago baseball or basketball. Not Isaiah Thomas. You can go through the litany of high school players who came through Chicago and became stars, but it's like... And I know he wasn't going full hot take here, but...

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