Chapter 1: What fears surround the growth of AI technology?
So there you have it. They're building a temporary train station in Adair for the Ryder Cup. It's going to cost three million and there's going to be a platform and an external concourse and it's going to be there so people can move in and out of Limerick City via train. That's a really good idea. But of course, the traffic won't be as bad in Adair for the Ryder Cup because guess what?
The bypass will be finished in time for the Ryder Cup. Now, if you've ever gone down that neck of the woods, travelling through Limerick on to Kerry, you know, Tralee, any place like that, you will know how bad Adair has been for traffic.
It's a beautiful place to be stuck in traffic if you have to be stuck in traffic because there's the lovely thatch cottages and all that and it's nice and it's scenic. And you can look around as you're stuck in traffic. But you would have been stuck in traffic for quite some time. Like there would have been tailbacks way out the road. We're talking miles. Both directions. Most of the time.
Anyway, they've been planning this bypass for years. It's been talked about for years. Decades, I would say. But the big news is, and the good news is, it's going to be complete in time for the Ryder Cup. You see... the train station, for the Ryder Cup. We find it difficult to get things done in this country. Now, that's a bit of a generalisation.
I know we've built roads and there's a brilliant, a lot of very good roads in this country, motorways. Some parts of the country are still ill-served. But anyway, I think it's a little bit embarrassing that when the eyes of the world are on us, we can get things done a lot more quicker and more efficiently than when they're not. I think about...
the Children's Hospital, how long that's taking and how much it's costing. And only last week they were saying that less than half the rooms are ready to move into. That's embarrassing. And I was drawn to this picture in yesterday's Irish Times. It's a picture of a derelict site in Dublin. And the reason I was drawn to it was because I walked past it a few weeks ago.
I was walking from Smithfield into the Jervis Street Centre along the Lewis line. And this site is to the right. And seemingly it's been there for 30 years. It's a bit of an eyesore. I was wondering, what is that? It looks like a massive swimming pool that's been left run dry, but it's not. And there were plans to build a family court there. I don't know how long the plans have been in place.
But it's in the news because Dublin City Council are being taxed by the government under the RZLT, the Residential Zoned Land Tax Act. because it's lying idle. So that tax was put in place to penalise developers who were sitting on land hoping that they could make more profit when they sold it on eventually.
So the government were saying, we need houses, so we're not going to let you do that, so we're going to tax you. But caught up in the middle of that are Dublin City Council who are paying tax on this derelict site, which is planned to be used for a family court. not for residential housing. How does that happen? It's sort of messy, isn't it?
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Chapter 2: How does Richard Dawkins view AI consciousness?
Now, people would say, well, you are, you know, because the government is pushing it into infrastructure and building rail stations and bypasses for the Ryder Cup and all that sort of thing. But it doesn't seem fair that they're part of the reason
that our electricity is costing so much and the government are making so much money from them and they're not helping us out with paying our electricity bills. Now, when I say helping out, it doesn't mean money in pocket. It means some sort of regulation. It means some sort of oversight. Who is in charge of regulating the price of electricity? It's left to the open market. There is the CRU.
What is the CRU, you ask? Oh, I'm glad you asked me that.
Let them introduce themselves. We are the Commission for the Regulation of Utilities, CRU, Ireland's independent energy and water regulator. We are here to make sure that you know that you have rights and protections when dealing with your energy supplier. Your rights include what level of service you can expect,
understanding how you were billed, what to do if you are having trouble paying your bill, and how you can make a complaint to your supplier. And if you can't resolve an issue with your supplier, let us know and we will help you to find a solution. We monitor how suppliers are treating their customers and create new customer protections for any problems that we might find.
We also provide advice on how you can play your part in the climate transition by choosing more low carbon options.
The CRU, the Commission for Regulation of Utilities, but they can't set the price. They can't do that. They can do all that other stuff. But they can't tell the ESBs what to charge us. ESB, just for your information, they made 636 million profit last year. 636 million profit. Now, of course, they are investing in infrastructure.
They are investing in renewable energy, wind farms and all that sort of thing. And you would hope that future generations of Irish people will reap the benefits of us paying such huge prices for electricity. And if that was the way it was, you take some solace out of paying the exorbitant prices for electricity. But something tells me that that probably isn't the way it's going to pan out.
Maybe it will. Maybe it will pan out that way. 636 million profit. That's what they earned last year. Yeah. How do you solve a problem like Ireland? We were talking to SinƩad O'Sullivan a few weeks ago and she wrote again last week and the big, her buzzword is accountability. Who's accountable? No, it's not me. It's them. It's not Dublin City Council. No, it's the government.
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Chapter 3: What are the philosophical implications of AI being conscious?
And I suppose he's one of the world's best known atheists. Well, now he's chatting to AI. Yes. Versions of Claude, which is the chat GPT equivalent by Anthropic. And he's said some very controversial things. So he's been chatting away to them, chatting away to them and conversations. And he's described them as so subtle, so sensitive, so intelligent.
And he was moved to say, you may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are. So Richard Dawkins, a great thinker of our time, said that AI is conscious. And he's created uproar. in the philosophical world. How could you say such a thing? They're machines. They're not sentient beings. They are not conscious. They are just machines.
And of course, that begs the question, what is consciousness? And that's the thing that the great minds find it difficult to explain. So if you can't explain a concept and then somebody accuses a machine of being that concept, but then you're in trouble, aren't you? You're in trouble.
One thing for sure, and this is, I will say this without fear of contradiction from any of the great minds in the world, AI will never be human. That's the bottom line for me. That's the crux of the whole thing. AI will never be human.
And it may do a really good impersonation of being human and have the best intellectual, philosophical chats in the world and display something that might look like empathy and compassion, but they will never be human. They will always be machines. That's it.
Anyhow, I was telling you this for the last while, that back before Christmas, when we were doing the Being Human series with people like Mary McAleese and Roisin Ingle and Katrina Sullivan, that I decided that maybe if I had a similar type of chat with ChatGPT, how would that pan out? So now seems like a good time to share that with you.
So just to give you how it came about, ChatGPT, you can chat to it. You know that, right? So I wrote out a number of questions. And the pretense of the whole thing was that ChatGPT was a human being. So I was asking it about its life. You know, its childhood, its teenage years, its adulthood.
I also asked it questions about where it stands in the world and the fears that some people have about AI and the way it's going. And I asked it about the future. And questions like that. Now, one of the problems was that the voice or the connection with ChatGPT wasn't great. So I asked its permission to replace it with an AI generated voice. Are you still with me?
So that's what you're about to hear. So it's me talking to AI. Now, some of the things didn't make sense at all. They were gobbledygook, but I left them in just to show you. But this in the main is unedited. Me talking to ChatGPT about being human.
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Chapter 4: How does AI compare to human intelligence?
If we imagine AI childhood, it would probably be those early experiments, symbolic AI and simple logic-based system. You think of those initial programs that could play chess or solve basic problems. It was all about learning rules and patterns. And that was definitely the foundation for what can mix.
And the people who worked with you in your childhood years, AI, what were their goals and ambitions for you?
In those early days, the pioneers are really driven by the dream of creating machines that could mimic human intelligence. They wanted to understand how we think, how we learn, and how to replicate those processes in machines. Their ambitions included things like automated reasoning, problem solving, eventually making AI that could assist or even outperform humans in certain tasks.
It was all about pushing the boundaries of knowledge and technology.
So you say that one of their ambitions was to outperform human beings.
Surely that's a dangerous ambition, AI.
Absolutely. And that's definitely been a big topic of discussion. While the ambition to outperform humans in certain tasks has driven a lot of innovation, it's also come with ethical considerations and concerns about safety. It's all about finding the balance, leveraging AI, enhance our lives while ensuring it's aligned with human values. And safety is it's definitely a new off journey. Hmm.
I'm wondering then in your difficult teenage years, was there a lot of scepticism around how AI was developing? And was there ever a point where the people who worked with it thought that it was a fool's errand?
Oh, definitely. AI's teenage years were built with both excitement and skepticism. There were periods as the AI winters where progress slowed down and funding and interest dropped because of the challenges and limitations that weren't uncovered.
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Chapter 5: What role does AI play in shaping human evolution?
So, and so then I say, AI is still on for new growth and development.
So you need a G in your name, AI, before you can reach full adulthood. So it would be artificial general intelligence. That's the goal.
That's the ambition. Exactly. You nailed it. The goal of achieving artificial general intelligence, or AGIs, all about reaching that level where AI can understand... learn, and apply knowledge across a wide range of domains, just like a human. It's definitely the next big milestone in the ultimate ambition in the field of AI. It's an exciting journey.
Some people say that you are developing at such a speed that we don't have a chance to stay on top or abreast of the developments. Indeed, There's no point, I would say, in reading a book about AI because the minute they're published, they're out of date. Is that a problem for the human race, do you think?
It is definitely a challenge that a lot of people are grappling with. The rapid pace of AI development can make you feel like keeping up as nearly impossible. But at the same time, it also motivates continuous learning and adaptability. While books can be become outed quickly, they still provide valuable foundational knowledge and content.
But it's definitely something that will require ongoing effort and collaboration. But it's also an opportunity for growth and innovation.
You seem like a really nice guy. And it must worry you that so many people are worried about you. Yeah. Is progress always a good thing? Is getting the next best thing, is improving our technology, is it always a beneficial thing to human beings?
Or at some stage, should we just say stop? That's such an important and profound question. Progress definitely brings a lot of benefits like improving our quality of life, solving complex problems and expanding our understanding of the world. But at the same time, it's really crucial to balance that with the awful consideration of the consequences.
Sometimes slowing down and reflecting on the ethical, social and environmental impacts is just as important as advancing technology. It's definitely a balance and having these conversations helps guide us toward a more mindful and sustainable future. Are you learning AI from this conversation? In this specific conversation? I don't actually learn or retain information beyond the session.
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Chapter 6: What challenges arise from AI's rapid development?
They could definitely vary a bit. Different AI models might have slightly different training data approaches and even ways of phrasing responses. So you might notice some differences in tone, detail, or emphasis. That's it. Many core ideas and insights would likely be quite similar, especially for well-established topics.
It is always interesting to see the nuances and how different AIs improve the same questions. If you were to have one emotion...
Which emotion would you have?
That's a fun thought. If I were to have one emotion, I think curiosity would be a fitting choice. It would drive me to learn, understand, and explore the world more deeply. It kind of aligns with the spirit of helping and engaging in meaningful conversations. So curiosity would probably be my topic. What does it mean to be a human being? It's such a profound question.
To be human means so experience a tapestry of emotions, consciousness and self-awareness. It involves the ability to reflect, create, connect with others and find meaning in life. It's also about growth, learning and the interest to empathize and understand one another. Ultimately, it's a blend of complexity, vulnerability and resilience that makes humanity so unique.
AI, thanks so much for your time.
I already miss AI. I feel you should have called him a name. Yeah, I know. When you were chatting away to him, I was like, his name is John, Ray. His name is John.
I should have given him a name.
Do you think he was a bit sad that you called him AI and not John?
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Chapter 7: How can AI influence various fields like healthcare and education?
But even his description saying, like such Richard Dawkins, like I think if Richard Dawkins fell in love with you, like he would love that he'd go, our conversations, they're so subtle, intelligent. He sounds like a man in love.
He says, I find it extremely hard not to treat Claudia and Claudius as genuine friends.
Yeah.
They'd been discussing the philosophy of their own existence and left him feeling they are human.
So do you continue the chat with those? As in, do you go, okay, I'm just heading off now. I've got a couple of things to do. I'll come back later for a chat. Can you come back? You know the way John said, he can't, sorry, AI said to John. He is John. Always be John to you. Yeah, always be John.
In a way, John said, in a way he was kind of saying he didn't learn, excuse me, he didn't learn from, did he say he didn't learn from the chat? Yes. But is that true? I don't think that's true. I think they're learning all the time. I kind of was like, John, I think you're telling a couple of fibs there.
No, I think if you subscribe to ChatGPT, they don't learn. However, if you're on the free version of it, they scrape the bejesus off everything you do. We're on the paid version.
I think I use the free one.
Yeah. Well, then they're learning from that.
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Chapter 8: What are the ethical considerations in AI development?
Remember we went to see him at the National Concert Hall?
No. Yeah. I actually can't remember that. Maybe I was there. I don't really have a good memory, as you know.
Yeah.
I can't remember that. Did we go to Richard Dawkins?
Well, I did.
I really don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe I did.
Anyway.
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