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Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode 3073 CWSA - The Scott Adams School 01/15/26

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of the Scott Adams School episode?

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We need Paul Collider. Yes. The one and only. Hi, guys. We're just loading up here.

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It still shows us pre-stream on my end.

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Okay, let's check locals. Good morning. Okay, I'm clicking live. All right, locals, can you hear us? Howdy. I think we're good, oh.

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30.035 - 33.04 Owen Gregorian

All right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Scott Adams School.

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Chapter 2: Who are the featured speakers and what roles do they play?

33.501 - 53.798 Owen Gregorian

I appreciate you all coming. This is Owen Gregorian. You can find me on X with that at Owen Gregorian. I'm sure you all know who I am. But we're just going to have a show today with a few different speakers. We're not going to talk about the news today. If you want to talk about the news, I'll be having my normal after party on Saturday and we can do that then.

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54.385 - 73.016 Owen Gregorian

but I think we'll just have some topics more directly related to Scott today. So we'll see how it goes. And I think Shelly is going to have an announcement tomorrow. So you may just want to tune in tomorrow for that. We don't have any details about that today, but she'll be back tomorrow with an announcement. So tune in for that.

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And I will turn it over to Erica and she can introduce our other speakers for today. And we'll go from there.

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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the simultaneous sip in the conversation?

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Thanks, Owen. Hi, you guys. I'm Erica. I asked two guests to come on today with Sergio and Owen and myself. And I think for the simultaneous sip, the locals are going to love this especially. It's a regular listener of Coffee with Scott Adams. It's Andy. Andy, why don't you do it for us?

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105.099 - 143.352 Andy Wang

Hey, good morning, all. I'm Andy Wang. I'm a regular. So, you know, most of you know who I am. So, I hope you're all ready. All you need is a cup or a mug, a glass, a canteen mug, a jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind, or yours with your liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, dopamine hit of the day, The thing that makes everything better. This simultaneous sip.

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Go. To Scott, my friend.

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150.499 - 153.421 Erica

Absolutely to Scott. It's not as easy as it looks, right, Andy?

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154.302 - 159.247 Andy Wang

No, not as easy.

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So if we're not speaking, if we just mute our mics, and I am going to first introduce... Jay Plemons, who you'll see on your screen. So a lot of you on X have seen Jay's amazing clips, of course, of our beloved Scott Adams. And what I love, Jay, about your clips is that you just know how to cherry pick the right thing. I love how you insert some editing into there.

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But what I love the most is the trolling vibe that you can give sometimes with those clips. It's just...

Chapter 4: How does Jay Plemons contribute to the Scott Adams School?

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I love it. So you guys, the Scott Adams School is in the works in effect. And I invited Jay to come on to tell us what he's doing for all of us. So take it away, Jay. Introduce yourself and tell us what's going on.

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209.99 - 225.929 Jay Plemons

Thank you, Eric. My name is Jay Plemons. I was just at an event on X, posting clips from Scott for the last year and a half or so. I've tried every day just to find the best, the best one or two clips that I really enjoyed, because I figured if I enjoyed it, then someone else would. So I'm trying to share that out.

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226.63 - 243.531 Jay Plemons

And then a few weeks ago, if you remember, in one of the pre-shows, Scott announced that what he wanted to do was take his micro lessons. And even though some of them are still short, still condense them down. As we all know, Scott, you could sometimes ramble on or alarm clocks would go off or different things would happen.

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243.611 - 263.94 Jay Plemons

So what I'm doing, there's about 260 micro lessons I'm going through, clean up the audio, condense it for time, condense it for content, and just get down to the pure message of what was there. So the added benefit of this that I really enjoy is I get to rewatch them all and really learn them as I'm editing them. Those will come out shortly.

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264.301 - 281.273 Jay Plemons

But as I said, so we are in the works of getting this content out there. And I'm Jay Plemons on X. I do appreciate all the messages people have sent me, thanking me for putting the post out there. That was my goal, just kind of share and flood the timeline with Scott's wisdom. So thank you very much. I appreciate this opportunity.

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You did such a great job and will continue to do. And I have a cat with dementia, you guys. So she's meowing a lot. I'm sorry. But also, are the micro lessons, I don't know if you know this yet or you can speak to it, but are they going to just stay on locals for the subscribers?

301.578 - 310.99 Jay Plemons

That was the original idea. So I'm not really sure exactly everything that's planned out. Yeah, it's going to be a locals because the micro lessons are on locals now. And so we're looking to...

Chapter 5: What insights does Andy Wang share about reframing your job perspective?

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and how we can incorporate that into the Scott Adams school as well.

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315.384 - 339.933 Erica

Okay. I love that. Thank you. And Jay, please chime in with us during the reframe. Like at any point, just jump in. If you want to participate, we want you to. Okay. Yay. So. Uh, Sergio, um, and Andy did. All right. So you guys in your chat, drop any emoji. If you guys brought your book with you. Okay. Cause we'll see.

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And everyone's going to get extra credit if you brought your book and it could be on audible, even if it's on audible, drop an emoji. We want to see. So today, um, Andy has picked a reframe from Scott's book, reframe your brain. And shout out to the locals.

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Do you guys remember when Scott was writing this and then he took a little trip to Hawaii to focus and write, but all we could hear were those crazy birds on the beach? I don't remember the name of them, but oh my God, that was the craziest thing ever. We were so distracted.

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374.242 - 376.565 Sergio In Tucson

But Scott took us- They sounded like babies, right?

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They sounded like babies. Yeah. Like these whining babies.

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Not just babies, but babies screaming.

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Yeah. Yeah.

Chapter 6: How do personal experiences shape professional perspectives in the discussion?

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Eerie. we're like, Oh, I'm sure that's really good for your concentration. Um, but it was amazing because don't you guys agree how Scott would take us on trips with him? Like he never really, he never missed a day. So we went all over with Scott and we were there for a lot of his, um, book writing processes and he allowed us to, you know, kind of workshop it with him.

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So we all like, especially this book, we all really feel like we're a part of this. So, um, Andy, why don't you tell us what page, if you have it, and which reframe, and then we'll all turn to it. And then why don't you and Sergio and Jay and Owen chat about it?

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424.188 - 453.587 Andy Wang

Okay. If you have the paperback, it's page 19. If it's the hardback, it's some other page. But I'm cheap and I only got the paperback. So the reframe is your job is to get a better job. Now, I'm just going to read a portion of it. And then the usual frame, your job is what your boss tells you it is. The reframe, your job is to get a better job.

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And Scott wrote, don't confuse your job with the work your employer wants you to do. The boss might want you to process all the pending orders by quitting time, but your job is to get a better job. Everything else you do to service that reframe. If it doesn't help you leave the job you are in an upgrade, it might not be worth doing. But don't worry that this line of thinking feels sociopathic.

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Doing a good job on your assigned duties is a way to look good for promotions. The reframe reminds us that to be in a continuous job search mode, including on the first day of work at the new job. If that sounds unethical, consider that your boss would drop you in a second if business required it. In a free market, you can do almost anything that is normal and legal.

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Changing jobs for whatever reason you want is normal. Your employer's job is to take care of the shareholders. It's your job to take care of you. That doesn't always mean act selfishly, but if being generous with your time and energy seems as if it will have the better long-term payoff, do that.

Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from Scott Adams regarding career transitions?

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Your employer might want to frame employees as, quote, a family, unquote, which is common. But that's to divert you from the fact that they can fire you at will. They don't want you to know that you have the same power to fire them. Part of the job of leadership is convincing you that what is good for the leader is good for you. Sometimes that is the case, but keep your priorities straight.

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You are number one. Now, I'm not going to mention any names, but let's just call him Mr. X. You know, true story, Mr. X. worked at a company for about 10, 12 years, and his boss framed it as a family and kept everyone loyal. And Mr. X rose up in the ranks, made more money. But then the boss's real family made demands. The boss's wife made an ultimatum.

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You can retire with me and move to Florida, or you can keep the business and I'll divorce you and move to Florida myself. And I think for the boss, it was cheaper to stay married. And the boss sold the business. And the boss stayed on for about six months as a consultant, smoothing over the feathers, keeping the family feel.

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But once the boss got done with his six-month consultancy, their new owners realized that Mr. X, a senior guy being paid more money, was worth about two brand new employees. And they realized they could keep Mr. X to do a good job on one project. This is a smallish company, 15 to 20 employees with a good book of business.

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So they realized we could keep Mr. X and he can do a good job on one project or we can take his salary and hire two new employees to do a mediocre job on two projects. And mathematically, they made their decision and got rid of Mr. X. Now, after Mr. X got laid off, I told him, hey, I told him this reframe. You know, your job is to always get a better job. He didn't think of it that way.

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And then landed on his feet eventually. And now he's doing that. He's always on the lookout for new jobs and opportunities. Now, Scott in his book also mentioned for smaller companies, you've got to give them a little more leeway. That is true-ish because Mr. X works for a smaller company and there's no shareholders. But then when circumstances change, you've got to be aware.

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So that's my contribution to this reframe.

Chapter 8: How does the podcast encourage community engagement and feedback?

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And, I mean, Sergio, have you ever, in your work life and encounters, have you seen how they could drop you in a heartbeat despite you like a...

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711.903 - 737.623 Sergio In Tucson

That's a wonderful reframe to really put everything in perspective. I love how you say like, you know, comparing the families, who's the real family, right? The company is telling you, hey, we're a family. Will you leave your wife? I mean, come on. So that's the way they do it. What I do, I don't have one boss. I have clients. I have about 100 clients.

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738.38 - 764.809 Sergio In Tucson

So I diversified all my bosses, thanks to Scott. That way I didn't have to treat each one as my only boss. But my goal is to always get a better client, get a better client all the time. So every time I get a client, I don't try to get rid of them. I just try to help them become better clients. So that's the way I've been doing it in my, since 2009, I've been freelance.

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764.789 - 777.668 Sergio In Tucson

I haven't had a job, you know, with a boss. So that's what I've been doing, just trying to get a better client. But that was great. And I think Owen has a lot of experience on this too. I would like to bring him in.

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779.048 - 801.799 Owen Gregorian

Uh, definitely. I, um, you know, I, I think I always had a bit of this attitude, but I probably had some of the opposite. So I probably needed this reframe when I first started working. Um, cause I, I definitely have always felt like I wanted to be loyal to my, at least to the projects I was working on. Like I, I would feel like I never wanted to leave a project before it was finished.

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And so but I but I did have the flexibility to think, OK, if there's a better job, I'm going to consider that. And I I liked my first job out of college. I like the company. I like the people I was working for. I like the work I was doing. I was getting promoted. And so everything was fine. But the at that time, this was in the early 90s. So it's a while ago. But yeah.

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Salaries were going up a lot every year. It's nothing like today. At least in my industry, it would be going up maybe even more than 10% a year. Just new college grads every year would be making a lot more than the prior year. And even internally, they would be giving out typically 10% raises to the people at my company.

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So that's kind of what you came to expect is every year I'm going to be making 10 percent more than I was last year. And maybe every few years I get promoted. But really, it was still probably a 10 percent or so raise every year. And that's just how they did it. And but the problem was the market was going faster than that. Like it might have been going up 15 or 20 percent a year.

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And they didn't do the they didn't do. The internal raises as quickly. And so I eventually realized, hey, I'm not making what I should be making here. And I started calling back headhunters that were leaving voicemails for me. And I got an offer from another company just like mine. And they said they'd give me a 40% raise just to come over. So I did that.

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