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Chapter 1: What are the latest updates on the Oilers' coaching search?
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Chapter 2: What triggered the NHLPA's investigation into Mike Babcock?
Their run towards a second Stanley Cup in franchise history stalled last night. Jordan Stahl. Boys, see, if I was more of a professional kind of radio slash host guy, you would have got that right away.
I wasn't anticipating layers to anything you say.
Zero. Absolutely zero. We're going to dive right into this for sure. But... A story that just continues to grow legs. And speaking of layers, is this whole Mike Babcock to Edmonton Oilers storyline. Jason Greger is going to join us in what, Sammy, in about 30 minutes, 35 minutes. Does a terrific job covering the Edmonton Oilers out there for Sports 1440 in Edmonton. But in the meantime...
The added layer now is the NHL Players Association wants to investigate Sammy.
So the PA went to the NHL and said, before this guy can be hired, he needs to be investigated.
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Chapter 3: How did Carolina tie the Stanley Cup Final against Vegas?
Is that right?
I was hoping you guys would know.
Yeah, that's my understanding.
That's what everybody's understanding is. Outside of that, what we do know is... When he got hired by Columbus and then the stories came out about the phones, there was going to be an investigation into Mike Babcock. It never happened. Why didn't it ever happen? He resigned.
This is from the story on Sportsnet.ca.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Babcock's potential hiring for the Oilers?
Sportsnet, Elliot Freeman reported on Tuesday that the NHLPA asked the NHL to do the investigation. According to Freeman's sources, at issue is the fact the league was never prepared to investigate what happened with the Blue Jackets until Babcock resigned in September of 2023. Once he stepped down, it never happened. Mm-hmm.
The union's current position now is that it should happen and conclusions reached before he should be eligible. According to multiple sources, one of the more serious concerns was a meeting that occurred away from the team facilities that included several minutes of looking through a phone, blah, blah, blah.
Okay. I think I made it clear the other day on our show. He does crappy things, but... You're not keeping him out of the league or coaching the Edmonton Oilers over this phone issue.
Chapter 5: What performance issues did Brandon Bussi face in Game 4?
Yeah, my... You're not? So Frank Cervalli has a tweet that implied something like, other than the phone thing, that there were some other... I don't know, allegations made that they need to investigate.
What allegations?
Well, I don't know. The players at the time. Let me pull up Frank's tweet. Sure, you can go ahead and read that. But my point with this is like, if Mike knew that those were very concerning or could damage his reputation further, maybe he wouldn't agree to take this job knowing that that would come to light. He obviously doesn't think they're that bad if he agreed to coach. Here's what Frank said.
Furthermore, sources indicate that asking players to see photos is not what ultimately resulted in Babcock's resignation. It was the subsequent unknown allegation reported below that caused Babcock his job in Columbus. So there's something else on top of the photos.
But that's the photos.
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Chapter 6: How are the Oilers' players reacting to the coaching search chaos?
So maybe the phone is separate from that.
So we're to believe that something else... happened in Columbus that ultimately led to his resignation and not grabbing Fantilli's phone.
He was there for nine minutes. Fantilli, eh? Interesting. I didn't know that part. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he couldn't... What happened? What happened in that month he got there? He came in guns a-blazing, ready to change the culture and blazed some people with the guns, apparently. Yeah, I don't know.
I just think this is... You just put ā when you ā listen, you can have your opinions on Mike Babcock, whatever. Like, I think both of you guys are having, you know, differing opinions on what a lot of people think of Babcock and him making his return, okay?
Chapter 7: What does Jason Greger think about Babcock's coaching style?
And I think it's fair to have that opinion. But, like, when you are potentially hiring Mike Babcock, not only just for a job, but for one of the more higher-profile jobs in the National Hockey League, coaching Connor McDavid, the Oilers, one of the marquee franchises of the last 10 years ā You're just putting yourself in harm's way with this stuff. It's just such a big story.
Like, you have to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze here, boys. I'm not sure it is. But maybe there's not much of a squeeze here. I mean, it feels like we're squeezing pretty hard already.
I think... The squeeze is happening in Edmonton. It's happening for Connor McDavid, whether or not Babcock's there or not. The squeeze is already happening, Sam. They're in the vice. What is the worst thing that can happen? He can get hired.
Chapter 8: What are the potential trade scenarios for Darnell Nurse?
He can screw up again. And they let him go. Okay. All right. I mean, where is... Can we... And we'll get Jason Greger certainly to comment on this, but the general consensus is out there that this is kind of a desperate move. They are desperate. Everybody knows it. Conor's got them on high alert. Like, you're there squeezing already, Sam.
Well, and Stauffer had some comments to the effect of that he interviewed with the Oilers brass. Like, sorry, that Babcock did these interviews, and they held his feet to the fire, and they grilled him, and they came out of that meeting saying, we want to do this. This, we want someone who's going to push guys.
What he probably didn't say is that, like... Part of the lure of me is who I've been in the past. You guys understand that? Totally. So you know, here's the difference between Babcock getting this job and in years other, in other years that he's gotten jobs. All that stuff was kind of hidden. Now it's totally surfaced. We know who you are. We know how you operate. You pry on the weak, right?
And we're okay with that. That's why we're hiring you again. Because we like, there's a lot of the old Mike Babcock we kind of like.
Mm-hmm.
And he knows it.
Torch doesn't get hired because he's an X's and O's wizard. He gets hired because he holds people's feet to the fire.
And that's it in a nutshell with him. It's not a secret anymore. We know who you are. We know how you operate. Some people think you're a scumbag. We're okay. We're hiring you anyways.
You sure do, huh?
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