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TWA Flight 800 | 700 Eyewitnesses Saw a Missile. The Government Said They Were Wrong.
02 Feb 2026
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Chapter 1: What happened during the TWA Flight 800 incident?
In the summer of 1996, a standard Transworld Airlines flight was set to travel from New York City to Paris, France. It was a routine flight with nothing out of the ordinary until disaster struck. The plane erupted into a fireball in the sky and crashed down into the Atlantic Ocean. Immediately, the world began to wonder, was this an unfortunate technical malfunction or a more sinister act?
Today, we're investigating TWA Flight 800. This is Red Web. Welcome back, Task Force, to another episode of Red Web, the podcast all about unsolved mysteries, true crime, and the unknown. I'm your resident mystery enthusiast, Trevor Collins, and joining me hearing this case for the very first time is Alfredo Diaz.
I'm wondering why everyone is jumping to possibly some type of like incident that isn't just a malfunction. You know, what year was this again? 1980? 1996. 1996. So what was going on in 96th? Is there a type of small... Is there a war or anything happening? Are we invading something?
Well, we're not long after Operation Desert Storm, which ended by 91. The fall of the USSR at the turn of the 90s. Also, I was a five-year-old, so I was running around watching Lion King at this point, so... That's also my memory of the 90s, but no, nothing comes to mind necessarily, at least not through the lens of this case.
I mean, like half a decade later? Yeah, it doesn't seem like there'd be any type of world event for the U.S. that would make it alarming and have people jump to the conclusion necessarily, you know?
weren't a myth anything um so that's where my mind went instantly and then you know did we recover the black box did we recover a piece of the plane were you able to tell like what happened because also what is the statistics for for planes crashing where people are like hmm maybe it was something else or just people just want to think something grander something different
These are all great questions, very good instincts, and some of them we'll cover. I mean, I love the idea of like recovering these pieces. Hold on to that because it's such a this is a mind blowing case in so many different ways. And that element right there is uniquely one of them.
I will say, as far as conspiracy, I think in the human history and the zeitgeist, we're always a little bit of a conspiracy-loving species. We want to think that there's something greater going on. True. And I do appreciate you seeking what's happening in the world that is maybe driving the fears of these theories. But we'll get into all of that. We'll say...
A few publications came out in the following days. I'll go ahead and just give this to you now. On the front page of the New York Times, it talks about explosive devices and explosions. And so immediately the news is jumping into something, jumping to conclusions. So we'll start with the crash, right?
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Chapter 2: What were the initial theories surrounding the crash?
Oh my. And with that rapid decline in altitude, it starts to shred into pieces where the wings fall off, the back of the plane falls off. It is truly horrifying.
It is, I'm sure, like a visual Final Destination-esque type moment. Where it's not just like, it's not a quick, right? When you say like explosion, you hope that it's quick and painless. This is, no, the people on this plane, the crew, they are terrified in their moments before death.
I can't even imagine, you know, the fear. You hope that it's a quick, instant, painless sort of situation. And it's interesting that you mentioned Final Destination because to my memory, Fredo, I know you know that franchise way better than me. Wasn't that plane also going from JFK to Paris and also exploded? Yeah. I'm only curious, Christian, if you don't mind. Oh, interesting. Was it inspired?
Yeah, was Final Destination inspired at all by this tragedy, Christian, if you don't mind kind of looking into that?
Yeah, because they had the teachers, they were speaking, one of the teachers was speaking French.
Yes, and there was a French class on this plane. There was 20 students. Really? From a French club on this plane, genuinely.
I feel like it's gotta inspire the movie at this point. There's too many parallels. Really, truly. Whoa.
Yeah, I honestly didn't want to get too candid about the passengers because it is so heartbreaking. But you mentioned that and yeah, some of the headlines really focused on that because it is the most upsetting part of the plethora of victims.
Yeah, I'm not seeing any official confirmations from people who worked on the film, but there are a lot of conversations amongst the community where they're saying that if there wasn't direct inspiration, it seems very clearly to have taken some inspiration from it.
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Chapter 3: How did eyewitness accounts influence the investigation?
You see part of the cockpit pulled up on a crane.
Oh, yeah, it's upside down. Pulled up on a crane. Oh, my God. In pieces. Absolutely. I don't know if they pulled up any bodies or anything like that.
Well, yes, they did. I'll just say that.
Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at like the second photo. I'm like, they have the whole cargo. So there's like big pieces still intact. I mean, everyone's strapped down, too. I'm assuming a lot of people are strapped down. So just like they're with that piece. Oh, that's... That's harsh.
It's very harsh. It's very hard to think about the picture here. And so I'll give you the facts. I'm not going to paint too vivid a picture of what was found that evening. But like I said, several witnesses were airborne when they witnessed the explosion. In fact, there was a helicopter being operated by the New York Air National Guard. It was the HH-60 Pavehawk helicopter.
It was about eight miles or 13 kilometers away from the aircraft when it exploded. And so they were essentially the first on scene able to arrive after they saw the explosion. And so as they approached, they realized that the crash was still kind of happening. They had to retreat because debris was still falling into the water at that time.
Whoa. I never really heard about, like, getting there too early.
yeah dude yeah so like i said um you know it exploded pieces immediately came down from that then the cockpit as well as like the front quarter of the plane fell off spiraling down the plane continues to fly up and so yeah you have almost stages yeah different pieces break off they have different weights to them gravity affects some of the different drop velocity a different rate and if you get there soon enough like when do you ever hear we got here too quick we need to back off because there's still pieces falling from the sky
right you just never hear about that it's always like you get there as it's happening or you get there in the aftermath of it yeah but never yeah like oh man that's what a case what a case dude and it really gives you a better idea of the timeline here like as far as like the minutiae how long it took for this crash to happen uh so to speak so they back off and ultimately rescue efforts are
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Chapter 4: What were the findings from the wreckage recovery efforts?
Like, I'm sure they flew through rain at some point when that dissolved some of it, too.
Well, if it's all like maybe in the cargo bay or something. True. Yeah.
Yeah, true, if it's on the inside.
It's a really interesting snag, and I think this is the crux for a lot of people and a lot of conspiracy theorists that go, well, the consensus that we'll talk about later doesn't really address this. Pragmatically, to me, there are some good reasons why explosive materials might be on this plane.
For example, just one month prior to the accident, a canine training exercise went down where they were basically training bomb-sniffing dogs. And they use containers with actual explosive ingredients in them so the dogs can find them.
And I believe one of the officers during that exercise said that one of the containers containing this material supposedly cracked during training and it could have led to some leakage. And that's maybe how the residue got there. But again... It would have rinsed off in the ocean. So, is this a false positive? Is there actually no residue?
That's a really interesting question. It's gotta be. I mean, I just think, did the malfunction in that explosion cause some of that residue?
Probably not. Probably not. Because these are certain ingredients that would have to... be involved with the making of an explosive device, not something that would have kind of been the aftermath product of a flame explosion or something like... Yeah, some type of circuitry malfunction.
Right. I mean, yeah, that makes total sense. Oh, man.
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Chapter 5: What are the major conspiracy theories related to TWA Flight 800?
Yeah, because right. The plane landed. A group deboarded. Yeah. And then what is it like an hour to get everyone on and then take off again?
For this particular flight, I'm not sure. I know it underwent, like I said, the thrust reverser sensors were replaced with some wiring. And again, I kind of gave you those details because like, oh, okay, so they saw some wiring needed to be replaced on the wing. Right. Where's the basic maintenance for the wiring elsewhere? Well, now it exists, but... Right. Maybe not at this time.
But, I mean, like, you could, like, the time is still so short, like, what, two, three hours, that you could be at the airport still on, like, a standard layover? Oh, yeah, yeah. You could be a layover when this happens. You know what I mean?
Like, I just got off that plane. Nuts. Can you believe that? Dude. That's... I almost can't, but you gotta. I mean, that's- That's what happened for some people. That's what happened for some people, yeah. Dude, that's wild. That's really- Wow, man.
So in closing, there's still a good amount to discuss here because like I've kind of implied, I won't be exhaustive because there's a lot of lessons learned from this accident. But ultimately, the NTSB fully reconstructed the plane and kept it on display in Ashburn, Virginia at the training facility.
And for almost 20 years, this reconstructed aircraft was used for accident investigation training. And so, like, you do love to see it. Like, it's so weird to say that because it's so obviously tragic. Like, don't get me mistaken. But the fact that we can learn so much from this and, like, improve safety, like, beyond measure. Like, that's at least, again, I've said this maybe four times now.
So drink for the fourth time here, cold comfort. But, like, that's pretty impressive, dude. Yeah. to pull all this up out of the ocean, put it all together. And then for 20 years, you have people coming through here to investigate and understand what happened, how this can be prevented. And honestly, what do you think that does for a generation of FAA employees or NTSB employees?
Safety will be right there at the front.
Yeah, to see it like firsthand and scale of it. That is the same reason why people are organ donors. You know what I mean?
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