Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Since the very beginning of literature, stories and folklore have been passed down through generations about a monstrous creature. We've seen them depicted in iconic books, movies, and television shows and have made them a staple in our culture. With their incredible size and their incurable bloodlust, they've been the object of nightmares for millennia.
Today, we're diving into the history and origins of werewolves. This is Red Web. Welcome back, Task Force, to another episode of Red Web, the podcast all about unsolved mysteries, true crime, and the unknown.
I am your resident mystery enthusiast, Trevor Collins, and joining me, hearing this case for maybe not the first time since werewolves stem back to the beginning of man, essentially, Alfredo Diaz.
Oh! It's a full moon somewhere! Dude, we talking werewolves!
You hear the little... You know what I mean? Like, Oh, dude. I mean, like all the moms of task force just perked up. Like it spans from movies that are absolutely atrocious to movies that are just horror classics. Um,
American werewolf in London just like the body horror and the prosthetics and all that and then you just have the just like popcorn flick I'm gonna watch over and over again underworld dude I love the underworld dude I I don't know what happened in my life that underworld grasped me by the everything and pulled me in. It's true. I love that series so much.
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Chapter 2: What are the historical origins of werewolves?
Every time. Yeah, I mean, werewolves are just... An awesome creature. The lore behind them is as old as time. Everybody knows werewolves. They're terrifying at times, sexy at other times. Sure. They've taken all sorts of forms. Yeah, all sorts of form and media. And I'm sure there's some smart books about werewolves. I bet. For sure. Well, I mean, Twilight didn't shy away from it.
You know what I mean? That's true. Is that light smut? Is that what Twilight is? Listen, don't come to me for that. I don't want to upset book talk or whatever. I don't know. That's true. I think it's young adult with some romance. Well, we welcome book talk to educate us is what we do. Yes. There we go. We open the door and we don't judge. But, you know, they've got range.
And they're just... It's just cool because you have the lore, right? It's what are their weaknesses. They transform during the full moon. If you're bitten, you know, you'll turn into one. And unfortunately, when you transform back, you're randomly somewhere butt-ass naked. But... Right. Every time, you know, a silver bullets puts you down. You have hunters like Van Helsing.
And, and so it's like, there's crossover with vampires and, and you have all kinds of media. You haven't comic books. You have, you know, by night and Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And so, yeah, I'm excited. Werewolves are cool, man.
it's very cool and you know we did this a while back like way way back where we explored vampires and other classic monsters that you see all over the the films these days just big in the zeitgeist monsters but i think there's something really fascinating about this because it get this will this exploration will give us an idea of the reality that built the legend that has stood the test of time in a way that i didn't truly understand until we do we dove into it like
It's so much deeper, which is why we kind of like put it on the back burner. I was like, you know, everyone kind of knows werewolves. It can't be that complex. There is so much information here. But before we go into the structure, there's a lot I want to lay out for you as to where I'm going to take you today. A few things. This Friday, we are doing Movie Club over Sinners.
So if you're like monsters, you like vampires, it is Oscar season. And they have swept. They have like a record number of nominations. And so if you haven't seen the movie, it's one of my absolute favorites. It's my pick of the year from last year. So come watch it with us as we break down the plot. Have a laugh along the way.
Real quick, Trevor from the future here to let you know this Friday's Movie Club will actually be free for everybody. So no matter if you're new to the Patreon or you're an existing member, it will be available to everybody. We figured this is a nice way to get an idea of what Movie Club is all about. But also Sinners is just an amazing movie.
We all love it so much, and it's setting records at the Oscars. So we figured, hey, why not give you the rundown? If you haven't seen it, come listen. We'll break it all down for you, give our reactions, give our interpretations on everything. So if you're trying to get ready for the Oscars and you want to understand why Sinners has 16 nominations, come hang out.
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Chapter 3: How have werewolves been portrayed in popular culture?
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I'm going to take you from stories of real historical figures. We're going to then move into stories that are built on the fear and the unknown that come from these stories. And then we're going to talk about the fear itself driving real world events.
And through this, we'll see a cycle where reality inspires legends, which beget fear, which then leads back to real events, which is a cycle that's as old as reality. written storytelling and one that cements the legend of this creature in pop culture today. And it's probably never been more popular despite it being, like I said, in stories as far back as we have them.
There's also a possible serial killer along the way. So for those of you who love that true crime element, we'll have a little moment there for some like 16th century potential serial killing happening. So the story has a little bit of all of it. But without further ado, let's dive in.
Now, of course, you laid out our modern understanding of werewolves very well, Fredo, but definitions vary depending on the cultures or the time level that you're looking at. At a basic level, though, a werewolf, also called a lycanthrope, a wolfman or a dogman, is a humanoid creature that in some way turns into a wolf. It's a man turning into a werewolf.
Typically, the transformation is tied to the full moon. However, specificities about the creature are dependent on who you ask. Sometimes it's magic based. Sometimes it's a cursed item or a curse in general. We'll talk about some of those things.
And although the exact origins of the werewolf are unclear, there are ample examples throughout time from researchers who point to different origin stories. And so what we're going to do is start with the origins and folklore that reference a human turning into a wolf. And this kind of lays our groundwork where then we'll move into kind of historical storytelling and then
the witch trials of Europe, which preceded the witch trials of Salem, Massachusetts, ending then with a very specific story and then culminating with kind of the characteristics one would expect from a werewolf. And then some modern theories that attempt to answer maybe what actually was going on underneath some of these real stories. Any thoughts before we dive in?
Do you know how far back we're about to go? I mean, since you're putting so much on that, like, the time period, I'm thinking we go drastically far back. Yes, sir. And, man, like, when you go that far back, it always reminds me of a scene from M. Night Shyamalan's Unbreakable. Okay.
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Chapter 4: What are the common characteristics of werewolves in folklore?
I completely agree. And I think it's because like you have that bond, right? And you go so far back and I'm sure you have tons of either ancient texts or writing in caves and stuff like that. Or just like there's the people, then there's the dog and there's the bond with the dog. And so there's this...
symmetry there between the two and so naturally people are going to instinctively cross them over in some way or it's like man's best friend i have a dog you have a dog we love our dogs and it's like oh man what if people turn into dogs or what are people doing dog like things and Yeah, like, man, what does my dog see? What does my dog think? I want to be a dog, you know? Yeah.
Well, there's also the fact and we'll get into this task force because I can sense the bubbling in some of the like some of the ears are on fire going, well, you know, wolves are also apex predators themselves. And you go far enough back, you have small enough towns and rural areas. We'll talk about some of the fear that's also stoked by just wolves being wolves. Oh, yeah.
And I'm sure that feeds into the whole werewolf thing, right? Because if it was just talking about man's best friend, then wolves wouldn't be so violent. Yeah. Yep. Like actual wild wolves, you know, being in packs. And you see that too in like werewolves movies. Sure, sometimes they're solo and whatnot. But, you know, usually if there's multiple, they're in a pack, right?
Just like actual wolves in the wild. So I'm sure a lot of it's pulled from wolves themselves. Totally. Alright, so let's stick with Greek stories for a second, then I'll pivot to Norse mythology, but there are also signs of werewolves in early Greek mythology with the tale of King Lycaon.
So very similar to Lycanthropy, we'll talk about that term here, but according to legend, Lycaon was the son of Pelascus and the king of Arcadia. In the most popular version of this tale, the king killed and cooked his son, Nyctimus. Some sources state that the king killed and ate a sacrificed boy, not deciphering if this is his son or not, rather than just a random boy.
But either way, Lycaon then serves the remains of this person to Zeus to see whether the god was truly all-knowing or not, if he would eat this plate of otherwise air quote meat, right? See if he could recognize human flesh. Now, of course, utterly disgusted, Zeus then turns to Lycaon and as a punishment, turns him into a wolf and his son is then restored to life.
In fact, there are illustrations of this through time. And I do want to say, while you look at this illustration, Fredo, we'll put this on screen and on social media. There are a lot of themes like this throughout this episode. We'll put them in the description. They're all very lightly touched on and mostly fictional. But for the sake of those who want them, check out the description.
So you can kind of see him. This is Zeus waving his hand. Lycaon is kind of turning to run away and you see his head starting to turn into a wolf there. You know, this makes me think, too. Yeah. In the background, there's like a building on fire. It looks like. Yeah. I don't know the context of that part. Zeus, man. One of the things that Zeus has done. It's pretty wild. Right.
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Chapter 5: How did werewolf trials intersect with witch trials in Europe?
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So let's talk about it. One of the first recorded uses of the word itself, werewolf, was in King Canu's medieval law codes in the 11th century. These were titled the Ecclesiastical Ordinances, and the code states, here's just an excerpt, "...the madly audacious werewolf does not too widely devastate nor bite too many of the spiritual flock."
Now, I don't know if it's a shift in language over time, but man, they got some flowery text back in the day. Yeah, they do. Ultimately, in this context, it is believed that werewolf here is used to describe those who are spiritually corrupt or outlaws. And so now you can see it taking on a slightly different meaning, though inspired by the stories of old.
However, this philosophy would carry into werewolf folklore as we kind of know it, as the middle ages kind of wears on. In early modern Europe, the time period immediately following the middle ages, werewolf folklore was on the rise. Much like now we see aliens on the rise. If you really zoom out, like hundreds of years from now, there might be the next big, big thing.
Now, some sources theorize that this was due to a rising fear of wolves and a general fear of the wild itself. This is something that we already kind of got to organically, but for example, very specifically in Germany, this fear was frequently coupled with actual wolf attacks that would plague rural towns.
I also read about in France, there was an article that was like, was this town plagued by a werewolf or was it something more like this where a maybe pack of wolves just happened to be hunting in the area and out of desperation turned to otherwise helpless individuals who themselves might be either afraid, not well armed or just in the woods.
You know, at the end of the day, humans are just animals. We think of ourselves, we got cell phones, cars and flying things. But at the end of the day, when you're caught with your trousers down in the woods, you're food. Yeah. You know?
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Chapter 6: What psychological factors might explain werewolf legends?
I've never heard that before. You're combining the two at that point. Yeah, truly. And so it's almost like death then begets the other entity in a way. And this does kind of remind me more of the Irish Abertook.
if I'm pronouncing that properly, as opposed to the quintessential Nosferatu or vampire, but essentially an entity that you can't be killed and it will simply just keep rising from the dead to go kill, not to feed, not to spread some sort of curse, but to kill.
Meanwhile, and this will set us up for where we're about to head, Western Europe kind of sees the werewolf as more affiliated with witchcraft and sorcery. And within the idea, you know, we think of witches on brooms and the very modern look of it, but witchcraft is a very big umbrella term for any sort of magics, shapeshifting being very much a part of that.
And so throughout the 15th, the 16th and 17th centuries, their Germanic werewolves were often viewed as shapeshifters who had made a pact with the devil in order to gain this ability or almost kind of become a servant. In fact, around this time, Europe was experiencing a viral trend, so to speak, accusations of witchcraft.
A small but notable portion of those, I would say, I think I saw somewhere between two and three percent. So, you know, a very small but focused set of these accusations featured specifically shapeshifting. Not the other kind of magics you might be accustomed to, especially in the more American Salem witch trials.
But most shapeshifting across Europe focused on wolves, though, as you kind of indicated, some do lean towards bears more. I've seen some about cats. I've seen some about hares. Other animals do sneak their way in. But let's talk about these trials, because these happened 200 years before the Salem Witch Trials.
European courts were convicting civilians of being shapeshifters with claims that people were transforming into werewolves and then mutilating and even eating children in towns across the countries across Europe. And these werewolf trials took place, like I said, between the 15th and 17th centuries and were largely fueled by superstitions, clashes between religious and political groups,
and the need for scapegoats. You can really see this as a knee-jerk reaction to tribalism of any kind. Just fear of people that don't agree with you, that have a different walk of life, or especially since you start to enter a little bit more of the modern historical Europe, where people can more easily travel, you can interface with people of different backgrounds more frequently.
And I think that that is an ever-present fear, right?
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