Guests: Madelein van der Hout, Senior Analyst Security & Risk at Forrester [@forrester]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelein-van-der-hout-65452025/On Twitter | https://x.com/HoutMadeleinPaul McKay, Vice President, Research Director at Forrester [@forrester]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-mckay-5304a115/____________________________Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesThe Human Side of CybersecurityInfosecurity Europe 2024 in London brought together some of the industry's most knowledgeable professionals. Marco Ciappelli and Sean Martin, your hosts, were joined by Madeline Van Der Hout, Paul McKay, both from Forrester, and various other experts to discuss the latest trends, challenges, and solutions within the cybersecurity landscape. This exciting episode of "On Location With Marco and Sean" dives deep into essential topics such as the significant role of the human element in cybersecurity, skill shortages, industry fragmentation, and future trends.Reimagining Cybersecurity: Back to the FutureThe episode begins with a nostalgic touch as Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli discuss the iconic movie "Back to the Future". Drawing a parallel between the film's theme of time travel and the evolving cybersecurity landscape, they emphasize how the industry might benefit from lessons of the past while anticipating the future.The Reality of Cybersecurity InnovationMadeline Van Der Hout and Paul McKay shed light on the changing dynamics of cybersecurity events. Paul mentions that events like Infosecurity Europe must now compete with other regional events like CyberSec Europe in Brussels. This healthy competition fosters localized insights and innovations.Madeline adds that cybersecurity innovation often stems from startups. She believes these events stimulate larger vendors to communicate with smaller startups, thus supporting the entire ecosystem.API Security: A Case for ConsolidationBoth Paul and Madeline reflect on the notable presence of API security vendors at the conference. Madeline points out the consolidation in the market driven by various approaches to API security. CISOs today expect API security to be an integral part of their infrastructure, driving the conversation towards prioritization and efficient resource management.The Human Element and Mental HealthOne of the crucial points discussed was the significant skill shortage in the cybersecurity industry. Madeline stresses the need for more conversations around mental health and burnout prevention among cybersecurity professionals. Paul supports this by highlighting common hiring challenges where organizations are often looking for the "purple squirrel" or the "five-legged sheep."Training and Educating Future TalentThe conversation moves towards the barriers to entry for new talent in the industry. Both experts agree that focusing on certifications alone can create a class divide. Paul argues that this practice restricts access to the industry for those unable to afford costly certifications.Madeline emphasizes the need to work closely with HR departments to create better job profiles and hiring practices. This could alleviate some of the industry's talent shortages.Cybersecurity's Future: More Than Just a Business ProblemMadeline takes a broader view by asserting that cybersecurity is not just a business problem. It's a civilian issue as well, affecting everyone with a digital footprint. She encourages leveraging the power of informed voting and education to address cybersecurity at a societal level.Data-Driven Decision Making: The Key to Security's EvolutionSean Martin concludes by discussing the immense data available in the cybersecurity sector. He emphasizes the potential for the industry to drive businesses by making better, data-driven decisions. Paul agrees, pointing out the need for cybersecurity to evolve similarly to how the CIO function has over the years.Conclusion: A Call for Innovation and HumanityThe episode wraps up by reinforcing the focus on the human element. Marco highlights the need to utilize existing resources effectively rather than being distracted by the latest technological gadgets. Madeline's call to talk more about humans in every cybersecurity breach serves as a profound takeaway.As the conversation echoes through the media room at Infosecurity Europe 2024, it's clear that the journey forward in cybersecurity involves a blend of technology, human touch, and innovative thinking.Be sure to follow our Coverage Journey and subscribe to our podcasts!____________________________Follow our InfoSecurity Europe 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosecurity-europe-2024-infosec-london-cybersecurity-event-coverageOn YouTube: 📺 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTcLEF2H9r2svIRrI1P4QkrBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________ResourcesLearn more about InfoSecurity Europe 2024: https://itspm.ag/iseu24reg____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastAre you interested in sponsoring our event coverage with an ad placement in the podcast?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/podadplcWant to tell your Brand Story as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

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