SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1140 I only work 17 hours per week, don't trust Google, and make $1.7m+
07 Sep 2018
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
He's having a lot of success. Launched his company back in 2009. Online jobs. Seems like an unbelievable way to attract great talent that is a cultural fit that speaks English and your language, especially if you're listening right now in America looking to outsource things like development design, stuff like that. He's helped over 40,000 Filipinos get jobs over the past 12 months.
His business model, he's got about 25,000 employers that have paid him at least $70 one time over the past 12 months. So minimum $1.7 million there in revenue. He eats his own dog food. His team size is about 21 people in the Philippines, only four in the U.S. as he looks to scale this.
Doesn't use Google Analytics, just focuses on word of mouth, only works 17 hours a week, building business in a healthy, healthy way. This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines.
We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million.
I had no money when I started the company. It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs.
We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everybody. My guest today is John Jonas.
He's helped thousands of entrepreneurs succeed in their business by doing outsourcing differently. He created and runs onlinejobs.ph, the largest website for finding Filipino virtual workers with over 500,000 Filipino resumes and over 100,000 employers from around the world using it. He works about 17 hours per week, choosing to spend his time with his family rather than working.
John, are you ready to take us to the top?
I am ready.
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Chapter 2: How did John Jonas create OnlineJobs.ph?
It's only the top 3% of developers. Help me understand a use case where I might go your direction and Filipino developers through your platform versus a TopTal, which specializes in just one thing.
So I have a CEO of of unique who just went from like 30 million to 300 million last year, uh, coming over to meet with me right when we're right when we're done. And he was interested in hiring Java developers. So the, the case where you would, where you would do that is you don't want to pay $150,000 a year for a, for a developer.
So like in the Philippines, you're going to pay for that same developer, 1500 bucks a month for full-time work. They're super talented. I mean, like the very first guy I ever hired, like 12 years ago, his blog was a page rank six because he had written some WordPress plugins that millions of people were using.
And so I hired him thinking, you know, I'm a programmer thinking, I don't know if he can do as good of work as I can. I don't know if he's going to be as good. He was better. And like the guy, I would put him up against anybody in the world at what he does. He's amazingly good. So
Not that everybody in the Philippines is like that, but you can definitely find really, really good talent for super affordable.
So it's a big cost advantage is what you're saying. I mean, I work with CEOs all the time and I ask about their employee-based things. There are people that are really spinning up amazing dev teams in Argentina, in Krakow, Poland, right over there, Moscow. You're seeing this kind of key. You're seeing teams pop up. But what you're saying is from a culture perspective,
from a character makeup perspective in terms of, you know, they're not going to steal your ideas. They don't, you know, they're not aggressive entrepreneurs like maybe other places. And from a cost perspective, they do great work.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of a combination of those things that, that makes it really, really good.
Okay. So tell me about the company. What year did you launch?
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Chapter 3: What unique advantages do Filipino workers offer?
I don't have Google Analytics on my site. I don't like Google analytics. I don't like the way it gives data. I don't trust its data. I, I don't trust Google. Um, that's, that's part of it. And I, I find myself, I tend to do things differently than most people.
So, uh, tell me some of the other things you ignore. Anything else?
Email marketing. Okay. Email marketing. Like it's, it's a disaster. Right. Like it's good and it's profitable. We do a little bit of it, but everybody's always saying, oh, you got to build a list. And I'm like, you know what? That's this is dumb. People hate email. And so we don't do it for a long, long time. I ignored social media marketing because I don't want to be on Facebook.
I don't want anything to do with Facebook.
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Yeah, I'm not. We have we know raise money.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did John face when starting his business?
In what situation? Married, single? I'm married. And how old are you, John?
I just turned 40 two days ago.
Oh, congratulations. Very good. Last question. What do you wish your 20-year-old self knew?
I wish I knew to be nicer.
Guys, John strikes me as a pretty nice guy. Maybe I'm tough and he's tough, so the toughness made us both fluffy today, but he seems like a pretty nice guy. He's having a lot of success. Launched his company back in 2009. Online jobs. Seems like an unbelievable way to attract great talent that is a cultural fit that speaks English and your language, especially if you're
listening right now in America, looking to outsource things like development design, stuff like that. He's helped over 40,000 Filipinos get jobs over the past 12 months. His business model, he's got about 25,000 employers that have paid him at least 70 bucks one time over the past 12 months. So minimum 1.7 million there in revenue. He eats his own dog food.
His team size is about 21 people in the Philippines, only four in the US as he looks to scale this. Doesn't use Google Analytics, just focuses on word of mouth, only works 17 hours a week, building business in a healthy, healthy way. John, thank you for taking us to the top.
Hey, thanks for having me.
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