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1236 He's Currently Raising $3m on $13m Pre, Will He Get The Valuation He Wants?

12 Dec 2018

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Chapter 1: What is Crazy Lister and how did it start?

0.031 - 16.048 Nathan Latka

Founded the company in 2015, crazy lister. Again, started with the eBay niche, now expanding, helping with pricing optimization and things like that. 4,600 customers paying 33 bucks a month, 150 grand in monthly recurring revenue. That's up from 75 grand just a year ago. So over 100% year-over-year growth.

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Chapter 2: How has Crazy Lister grown since its inception?

16.028 - 33.897 Nathan Latka

They've raised $1.2 million, the last tranche being $600 on a convertible note at a $9 million cap. They're now raising $3 million at $30 million pre-money valuation. That's what he's going for. He feels confident about it because the economics make sense. 4% churn, that's logo churn per month gross. $100 cap, so they're getting paid back in under three months.

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34.217 - 61.085 Nathan Latka

Lifetime value, 25 months, around a grand in LTV there. His team of 20 based around the world. This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines.

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Chapter 3: What funding has Crazy Lister raised and what are their current goals?

61.265 - 74.183 Nathan Latka

We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million. I had no money when I started the company. It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers.

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Chapter 4: What is the current monthly recurring revenue for Crazy Lister?

75.023 - 90.457 Nathan Latka

With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Victor Levitin.

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Chapter 5: What is the customer acquisition cost for Crazy Lister?

90.477 - 105.03 Nathan Latka

He took an e-commerce company to 4.5 million in revenue, and he felt the pains of online selling directly. He then took his current company, Crazy Lister, to 1.5 million in ARR, making online selling way easier for retailers. We'll jump into it today. Victor, are you ready to take us to

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105.01 - 130.073 Victor Levitin

the top let's do it all right so what are retailers paying crazy lister for great so our mission in life is make e-commerce online selling a hundred times easier than it is today by liberating retailers from dependency on it skills and we started with the most broken sales channels that we identified which is ebay so today we uh crazy lister

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130.576 - 157.263 Victor Levitin

is being used by retailers to completely manage all their eBay operations, creating their product listings, applying professional templates to them, making them mobile optimized, controlling their prices, their quantities, and so on. And we are actually, right now, we are expanding the solution beyond eBay to more sales channels, Amazon being the first one beyond eBay.

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157.584 - 161.169 Nathan Latka

Okay, and tell me a little bit about growth. So we had you on kind of early in 2017.

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Chapter 6: How does Crazy Lister manage customer churn?

161.189 - 170.343 Nathan Latka

I think it was March of 2017. At that point, you're doing about $300,000 in annual recurring revenue and had about 2000 customers. What are you at today?

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171.846 - 188.882 Victor Levitin

We are currently in terms of revenue, we are at about 150 a month in revenue. Um, we serve 4,600 customers from 150 countries and the team has now grown to 20 members.

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Chapter 7: What strategies is Crazy Lister using to expand its market?

189.262 - 199.976 Nathan Latka

Okay. So 20 folks on the team and then, uh, those 4,600 customers, if you have 150 grand in monthly recurring revenue, it sounds like those 4,600 customers are paying about 30 or 35 bucks a month. Is that accurate?

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201.338 - 215.754 Victor Levitin

Yes, that's correct. The most exciting thing for us here is that for the past quarter, We've onboarded more than 100 customers who pay us north of $100 a month with the highest paying customers paying us four digits a month.

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216.235 - 216.755 Nathan Latka

That's great.

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216.776 - 218.759 Victor Levitin

So we are pushing up market.

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219.34 - 227.796 Nathan Latka

And so, I mean, just to be clear, is that accurate? About a year ago in June 2017, what were you doing in terms of monthly recurring revenue?

228.434 - 233.662 Victor Levitin

June 2017, we were at about half of what we are today.

233.782 - 240.932 Nathan Latka

Yeah, we grew a bit more than 100% year over year, so yeah. That's great, congratulations. And are you still bootstrapped or have you raised capital?

242.494 - 253.47 Victor Levitin

We did raise capital. We've raised 1.2 million to date and we are currently, we've started a new round just last week.

253.49 - 257.496 Nathan Latka

Oh, great. The last funding round that you raised, when was that and for how much?

Chapter 8: What advice does Victor Levitin have for aspiring entrepreneurs?

281.573 - 282.414 Victor Levitin

We're based in Israel.

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282.735 - 291.048 Nathan Latka

Israel. Okay, so obviously a lot of very successful companies coming out of Israel recently. What does the funding market look like over there? Do you think you're going to get the valuation that you want?

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291.649 - 317.727 Victor Levitin

Yes, absolutely. We are rising out of a strong point. We have our current VC considered as a top portfolio company. So he reserves cash for us. and we are going to raise because we can, because we can use the cash to accelerate the growth, not because we need it at the moment.

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318.308 - 320.473 Nathan Latka

So how much are you looking to raise and at what valuation?

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321.196 - 325.142 Victor Levitin

We're looking to raise 3 million at a 13 million valuation prep.

325.162 - 335.217 Nathan Latka

Okay, got it. So 30 million pre 33 post. And if you're doing 150 grand a month right now, it's about call it one, call it 2 million in ARR. I mean, that's a 15x multiple. You feel good about being able to get that?

335.737 - 336.559 Victor Levitin

Yes, absolutely.

336.799 - 343.609 Nathan Latka

Got it. And you're saying the reason you feel good about that is your current investors have reserved cash to lead this $3 million offer.

344.483 - 358.884 Victor Levitin

Not only that, my confidence starts and ends from the team. We've built a killer team. I think we broke some kind of a record. We've just onboarded three VPs in a duration of one month. Three like world-class VPs.

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