SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1375 NewRelic Competitor Hits $2m in ARR, 900 Customers, Growing 80% yoy
30 Apr 2019
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of Stackify and its growth story?
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Stackify launched back in 2012, solving his own problem, bootstrapped for the first several years, recently raised 3 million bucks of capital, serving over 900 customers, paying on average 200 bucks a month, so doing about 180 grand per month right now in revenue. That's up 80% year over year in August 2017. He was doing just about 100 grand a month through recurring revenue.
Economics make a lot of sense. 90% logo retention per year, net negative revenue churn. When they do spend money on acquisition, it's about 200, 300 bucks, couple hundred bucks. So payback is under two months. Again, team of 40 folks between Kansas City and the Philippines scaling.
This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines. We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million.
I had no money when I started the company.
It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs.
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Chapter 2: How did Matt Watson bootstrap Stackify in its early years?
Okay.
And what do they pay on average per month?
It's all of the board. I mean, we have a lot of customers that pay us $200 or $300 a month, and we have customers that pay us thousands that are bigger.
Just to avoid going on every cohort, though, I mean, what would you say the average is? Two or $300 a month. Okay. 200 or 300. That's great. So, I mean, let's assume a conservative 200 bucks a month times 900. I mean, that puts you at about what? 180 grand a month right now in revenue.
Yeah.
Yep. And what does growth look like? Where were you a year ago?
We've grown about 80% year over year.
Okay.
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Chapter 3: What metrics indicate Stackify's growth and customer retention?
So you were at about a hundred grand a year ago?
Yeah. Something like that. I don't remember the exact numbers.
Yeah. What's driven most of the growth? Is it kind of adding new customers or expanding customers you already had?
Mostly new customers for sure. So we definitely do see a lot of expansion. So a lot of our customers are software companies, of course. So when their companies grow, they need more licenses of our software. So that drives growth that way. But yeah, we sign up a lot of new customers every week.
So I want to try and capture how you're doing on expansion as best I can. And usually the best question to capture that is what your net revenue retention looks like annually. I assume it's maybe above 100%. What is it?
We have negative churn. So when I've looked at it before, our year over year expansion is like 20%.
Okay. And what is your gross revenue churn per year?
I'm not sure.
Okay. Well, ask differently. How negative are you, net negative revenue churn?
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Stackify face before raising capital?
So on an actual customer base, we probably retain 85 to 90% of the customers. And then the ones that stay all grow. And so the ones that stay spend more money than the ones that we lost.
Yep. Yep. 90% logo retention per year. Again, those logos that stage, like you just said, the expansion on those makes up more than the lost revenue, which is why you have net negative revenue churn.
Yeah.
That's great. Good stuff.
Yeah. All of that is confusing.
No, no, that's okay. It's one of those key things. Let me ask you, as kind of the technical co-founder, how do you use numbers like this? I imagine when a guy like me asks you these questions, you go like, fuck off. I don't need to know all these numbers. Who handles that at the company?
I mean, a lot of those numbers aren't numbers that we really think about at all, unless it's time to talk to some investors. On a day-to-day basis, they're not really KPIs that we think about, honestly.
Yeah.
How do you, so when someone signs up for Stackify on day one, what do you have to get them to do to make sure they stay sticky and they don't cancel?
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