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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders

727: Why People Pay Him $10m+/year or $4 on Every $10 in Ads Managed

21 Jul 2017

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 2.353 Nathan Latka

Andrew founded Choozle back in 2012.

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Chapter 2: What is Choozle and why is it considered the fastest growing digital advertising platform?

2.634 - 16.567 Nathan Latka

They've got a multi-tiered kind of revenue approach where they're making money on a SaaS play, but also rev share. The SaaS side of that, 250 customers paying on average 300 bucks a month, so 75 grand there per month. Additionally, again, making most of their money on the percentage of ad spend side.

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16.607 - 36.253 Nathan Latka

Raised 8.5 million bucks, did about 10 million in sales in 20, or last year, looking to hit about 20 million this year. This is episode 727, Choozle. Coming up tomorrow morning, you'll learn from Aaron Klein. And with $24 million raised, why is he building financial technology on the back of advisors? But first, here's today's episode.

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36.994 - 55.183 Nathan Latka

This is The Top, where I interview entrepreneurs who are number one or number two in their industry in terms of revenue or customer base. You'll learn how much revenue they're making, what their marketing funnel looks like, and how many customers they have. I'm now at $20,000 per talk.

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Chapter 3: How has Choozle achieved profitability and what are its revenue figures?

55.203 - 63.559 Nathan Latka

Five and six million. He is hell-bent on global domination. We just broke our 100,000-unit soul mark. And I'm your host, Nathan Latka.

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Chapter 4: What is the subscription model and pricing structure for Choozle's services?

63.639 - 78.262 Nathan Latka

Hello, everyone. My guest today is Andrew Fisher. He's a seasoned entrepreneur with extensive business development and sales experience in digital media and entrepreneur service. software or enterprise software or SaaS. He recently launched Choozle, a simple end-to-end digital marketing platform in the fall of 2012.

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79.384 - 84.491 Nathan Latka

Based in Denver, Colorado, Choozle is the world's fastest growing digital advertising platform.

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Chapter 5: How does Choozle generate revenue beyond subscription fees?

84.611 - 93.943 Nathan Latka

Andrew, you're ready to take us to the top. All right. Thanks for having me in. Yeah, that's a big word. Fastest growing digital advertising platform. How do you know you're the biggest? Prove it.

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94.666 - 115.288 Andrew Fischer

Well, we know we're the fastest growing just based on our growth rates as proven by third-party sources, including Inc. Magazine and their annual rankings. What were you ranked? This will be our first year in Inc. because you have to have four years of track record above a certain revenue level. So when I looked at last year's benchmarks, we'll probably be in the 60s or 70s worldwide.

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115.829 - 130.413 Andrew Fischer

And so for our category, we'll still be the fastest growing over that period of time, which is exciting. And we also got profitable last year, which is pretty unusual for us. a fast-growing technology company to also get profitable in the same year. So we're very proud of that.

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130.654 - 134.444 Nathan Latka

That's great. So you launched this again several years ago.

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Chapter 6: What strategies does Choozle implement to manage customer churn?

134.464 - 136.249 Nathan Latka

I think you said 2012, correct?

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136.516 - 138.62 Andrew Fischer

Yep. So it's been about four and a half years.

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139.061 - 145.875 Nathan Latka

Got it. And I'm pulling the data, I think, off Inc. here. That's where my research team got this, I believe. But 2016 revenue was between $5 and $10 million?

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146.437 - 147.098 Andrew Fischer

Yep.

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147.158 - 147.439 Nathan Latka

Exactly.

Chapter 7: How does Choozle calculate customer acquisition cost and lifetime value?

147.459 - 148.561 Nathan Latka

And about 30 employees?

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149.463 - 159.58 Andrew Fischer

Yeah. We ended last year, 2016, at 32 full-time employees. We actually raised a small... follow-on round based on our success last year.

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Chapter 8: What are the key metrics that indicate Choozle's business health?

159.64 - 168.329 Andrew Fischer

So we've invested pretty rapidly in the team. We are actually just about 50 full-time employees. So we've had a pretty big growth spurt over the last six months or so.

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168.63 - 171.953 Nathan Latka

And what's the business model? Is it an agency retainer model or is it SaaS?

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172.754 - 182.224 Andrew Fischer

It's SaaS in the sense that we are fully a self-service platform. We install at the agency level. They do have a monthly license fee, which is very much a SaaS type model.

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182.284 - 183.685 Nathan Latka

Which is what on average?

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183.665 - 196.793 Andrew Fischer

It depends. The lowest level of subscription we have is $99 for an agency with a single client, and that can go up to around $2,000 per month if they want to fully white label our system, have unlimited accounts.

197.354 - 199.559 Nathan Latka

Average it for me, though, Andrew. What would you say if you average it?

200.561 - 203.046 Andrew Fischer

The average subscription level is probably about $300 a month.

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Okay.

203.813 - 217.688 Andrew Fischer

per client. We've got about 250 clients in the platform. As I mentioned, the vast majority are self-service. We do offer kind of hybrid managed services, which is kind of a training program to get our agencies up to speed until they are able to take over the controls.

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