SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
KPISense Raising $1.5m Now on $1.2m Revenues As Tech Enabled CFO For SaaS Founders
24 Dec 2020
Chapter 1: How did Will Cordes start KPI Sense?
We've raised 225K. So for all intents and purposes, yes, we're bootstrapped. And I've got all that money and more in the bank. We've got about 350K in cash. So we've been really cash efficient as a business, thankfully.
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My guest today is Will Cordes. He has over a decade of experience helping SaaS and software businesses solve their strategic financial challenges. During that time frame, he's led, operated, advised, or invested in over 100 SaaS and software companies. In March 2019, he founded KPI Sense to reinvent the concept of outsourced CFO and FP&A work for SaaS and software companies.
Will, you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, let's do it. So that was a mouthful. I mean, are you a fractional CFO, basically?
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Chapter 2: What financial services does KPI Sense provide for SaaS businesses?
I think SAS Optics is a great platform amazing revenue recognition and good kind of reporting fundamentals. But there's an element of that that's last mile where they need a finance expert or a KPI metrics guru to go and extract value out of the data that they have. Love the idea. We talked further with the team.
I think they decided at the time it wasn't incremental enough for them to really pursue aggressively. And I was just idea stage at that point on a napkin. But it kind of got my head churning and kind of led to the foundation of the business. But we're not a rev rec tool. We're not a pure reporting tool, I would think about us as an amoeba.
We're taking, you know, SaaS Optics is going to help you with RevRec and subscription revenue data, where you're still going to have this delineation with your QuickBooks instance, your financial statement data, and then all of your analytics data.
We're bringing all of that together to help you be kind of a source of truth for historical financial information and forward-looking predictive information. So getting your financial model, your scenario analysis,
preparing for example for 2021 planning and budgeting and really nailing down your metrics and understanding that but you don't have to be the guru we'll be that expertise for you and give you the the materials and the feedback and kind of the decision making uh criteria that are going to help you execute and be a better business at the end of the day i mean do they probably hate that you're launching this and have grown so fast so quickly like why didn't they just hire you and have you lead a team yeah no well that's a good question uh you know honestly i think um
You know, I talked to Dave about that a little bit. I think there was definitely interest of, you know, potentially working together. But I wanted to kind of go out and do my own thing. I don't think it's really competitive, though, to what they're doing. It's much more of a services layer. I mean, think about early days of like Salesforce, right?
They created this robust services market on their platform, whether through applications, through professional services, from implementation, from architecture, right? It's the same concept with the subscription economy. There's a way to take that financial and operational data and build really interesting use cases that are monetizable, that drive value to customers.
But it all is reliant on good financial data. And you know this with FounderPath, right? Getting good data from companies can be really challenging. There's all sorts of different shapes and sizes. So for us, we're able to unlock additional value from these different kind of tenants and kind of stool posts.
But really, SaaS Optics and these other subscription management providers like a ChargeBee or someone else, they're not really monetizing this type of work. They don't have a robust set of CFO services or other things because that's not really what their focus is. That's not their target market. Maybe down the road, that's something they expand into.
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Chapter 3: What is the average revenue KPI Sense generates from its clients?
People that don't have good bookkeeping fundamentals, it makes it really challenging for us to do our work. So I'll go with a compound answer there.
Number four, how many hours of sleep do you get every night? Say it again. How many hours of sleep do you get each night?
Oh, I'd say about six to seven. I've got a nine-month-old, so it's shockingly good for that situation.
And what's your situation? Married, single, and do you have just one kid or more?
Married with one kid. So yeah, I'm a new father, entrepreneur. I'm rolling all the dice and it's COVID, so.
I love it. Interesting times. You're doing it all. And how old are you? I am 33. 33. Yeah. Last question. Started the journey two years ago.
What's something you wish you knew when you were 20? I wish I knew when I was 20 to go out and own it and try and have my own kind of hustle side hustle. I mean, I think you're you're a good testament to this yourself. I think fear can be paralyzing. So I always tell people if they ask me, own your niche, go out and start your own side hustle.
If you ever get laid off or fired, you have something to fall back on. And again, I think you've done that. I did that about 10 years ago, not 10 years ago, about six or seven years ago. And I've never regretted it since. So you own your outcome versus relying on somebody else.
Will Cordes, KPI since working with 40 SaaS customers on a recurring basis, just broke 1.2 million bucks in AR after launching about 18 months ago. Again, think of it like a highly strategic outsourced CFO, but a lot of other stuff as well. KPIs, forecasting, capital raising, et cetera. 13 folks on the team so far. They've already raised $225,000.
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Chapter 4: How is KPI Sense different from traditional outsourced CFO services?
Thanks.