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SaaS for developer productivity hits first $3k in MRR

25 Jun 2022

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Chapter 1: What is the fitness tracker for work introduced in this episode?

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so you're doing about 3 000 bucks a month right now on revenue something like that yeah very cool You are listening to Conversations with Nathan Latka, where I sit down and interview the top SaaS founders, like Eric Wan from Zoom. If you'd like to subscribe, go to getlatka.com.

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We've published thousands of these interviews, and if you want to sort through them quickly by revenue or churn, CAC, valuation, or other metrics, the easiest way to do that is to go to getlatka.com and use our filtering tool. It's like a big Excel sheet for all these podcast interviews. Check it out right now at Gitlatka.com. Hey folks, my guest today is Alex. She's the founder of Adidot.com.

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It's the world's first fitness tracker for work for developers. She leverages data hiding and productivity and collaboration software to help developers improve how they work and feel. Rooted in science, integrates with GitLab, GitHub, and Slack. Alex, you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, all good. So is this a physical thing people are installing or no, it's digital?

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No, we call it the fitness tracker, but really it's just software, basically. It functions like a fitness tracker, but not a physical thing. Interesting. Okay, so explain to me, I guess, are teams paying for this for all of their engineers to use to become more productive and happy, or are engineers paying for this themselves directly? Actually, a little bit of both.

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So our pricing works in the same ways that Notion does. You have a personal pro, and then you have team licenses as well. So it can happen in both ways. Okay. And so I guess, how much does an individual license usually cost? It's just a small one. It's about $10 per user per month. $10 per user per month.

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And I guess, help me explain, maybe explain the story of how an engineer has used you and how they change their habits or behaviors because of what they learned from the app. Yeah, so we have some real-life examples. So, for example, an engineer that was working front-end, he was very scatty with his approach and his calendar, wasn't actually accounting for a lot of focus time during their day.

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So essentially a lot of meetings, cramping in their time. And once they've noticed that, they basically stopped kind of arranging meetings in the middle of the day, which basically left them with three or four focus hours a day, which increased productivity by 50% month-on-month. Very interesting. And is your main go-to-market today?

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Did you start off selling direct-to-enterprise, selling massive team plans, or did it start bottoms-up, individual engineers? Yeah, so we're kind of using a hybrid approach at the moment. So sometimes we speak to teams. How did you start, though? Yeah, so we essentially start usually at the individual level and then basically sell upwards. So when did you sell your first individual?

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Do you remember the year? Yeah, no, it was like a few months ago. So it's a very recent product, yeah. When did you launch the business? So the business started back in 2019. We actually pivoted a couple of times before we arrived in our current destination. The current product launched on ProductHunt on the 28th of January. And how did the ProductHunt launch do?

Chapter 2: How does the pricing model work for Adidot.com?

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So that launch was January 28, 2022. You got about 400 upvotes, right? Yep. Okay. And over 1,000 signups. Now, how many of those signups converted to paid? Do you know? Yeah. So to be honest with you, not all of them, obviously. So we had about 50 signups out of that that were fully integrated and proceeded to go into the more premium tier.

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So the individual licenses right now are mostly on the premium side. Well, 50 converting to paid out of 1,000 is a 5% conversion rate. That's pretty good. All those 50 started paying $10 a month? That's awesome. Well, congrats. You don't seem very excited. No, it is very exciting. Sorry. I'm always thinking about the next stage and growth and getting bigger and better.

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So I'm always focused on the next thing. So those were 50 from Product Hunt. How many total users do you have today? Customers, paying customers? Yeah. So if we look at essentially both corporate customers and individuals, so it's about 200. Can we take 200 times 10 to get your MRR? Yeah. Well, actually no, because the corporate ones are charged at double the price.

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So essentially you have to basically take that into consideration. So I would say they're half and half right now. So you're doing about 3000 bucks a month right now on revenue, something like that. Yeah. Very cool. And where were you exactly a year ago? Do you remember? It was a completely different product. We were doing a very, very different thing.

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So we were trying to solve the problem of, again, it's a work related problem, but it was about kind of time analytics and how people are utilizing their time from a kind of broader perspective, not just developers. I see.

Chapter 3: What real-life examples illustrate the impact of the fitness tracker on productivity?

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Okay. And talk to me about the founding story here. Are you sole founder or do you have a co-founder? I have a co-founder, a technical guy, CTO. You guys were nice to each other and split it 50-50 or did you keep more? I kept more. Now we're rejigging a little bit, actually. We're in the process of redistributing a little bit of that. And why is that?

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Well, because when we started, we're a completely different product. We were doing something different and it made sense to split it that way. Now, because obviously we're way more technical products, there's much bigger contribution on his side. So actually it would make sense to have a more equal split. Okay. And have you guys self-funded or have you raised capital?

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We have raised capital now, so we just close around a nice, chunky pre-seed. If you basically put all the money in, including government grants and everything, that's about like a million, essentially, in dollars. Remote teams are all the rage right now. In fact, many companies want to stay this way, even post-pandemic. And the reasoning's obvious.

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Hiring talent from anywhere in the world means you can bring on better talent. But the challenges are very real. How do you manage employees in other countries legally and easily? What about international payroll, employee benefits? What are taxes like in countries that are far away from where you're based?

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Sign up today and receive a 50% discount off your first employee for the first three months. Check out nathanlatka.com forward slash remote and enter promo code LATKA to get started. That's nathanlatka.com forward slash remote and promo code L-A-T-K-A. Check it out today before you miss out. And what most folks are sort of raising pre-seeds these days is sort of a million on a five cap.

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Is that sort of what you guys did? Uh, no, um, no, we have, we have a few uncapped notes in that round. Oh, good. Okay. So it's not a price round. It's an uncapped note. So some of it is priced because of UK government rules. Some of it is essentially uncapped. Oh, I see. Interesting. Okay. Well, let's, let's look at future, right? So how do you sign up a thousand more customers?

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What's the go-to-market? What's the growth strategy? Yeah, so we, as I mentioned, we have a two-prong approach. So we're basically kind of doubling up on kind of like the team aspect and the individual aspect. But from a distribution perspective, we're looking at a number of distribution deals right now with some very, very well-known, I'm not going to name who. Who are they? Marketplaces.

Chapter 4: How did the launch on ProductHunt perform for Adidot.com?

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And how many engineers? Most of them. There's literally just two of us. We're not technical. So five. Okay. That makes sense for what you're building. Listen, we're rooting for you. This is a heck of a story. Again, guys, check it out. Added.com. Alex, let's wrap up here with the famous five. Number one, favorite book. Oh, God. Favorite book. Venture Deals.

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Number two, is there a CEO you're following or studying? It's going to sound very common. I do like Elon Musk. He's like a huge visionary. So nothing too special there, I guess. Just Elon Musk. Number three, what's your favorite online tool for building out a dot? Figma. Number four, how many hours of sleep do you get every night? Four. And what's your situation? Married, single, kids? Oh, wow.

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I am married. Yeah. Hence the Harris. Awesome. Any kiddos or no? No, no. None. Can I ask how old you are? Too old, probably too old. Yeah, about, well, 35. 30, we'll say 30 years young.

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Chapter 5: What challenges did the founder face in the early stages of the business?

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Okay, last question. Something you wish you knew when you were 20. How to basically scale to 2,000 customers. I wish I knew that. Guys, there you have it. Adidot.com. They got going with a big product launch. Now have about 200 customers paying $10 to $20 a month for their tools. So call it three grand a month, the recurring revenue.

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Just closed a million dollar pre-seed round, including some grants and other stuff to really double down on growth. Seven on the team today, five engineers. And really the purpose of the tool is to help engineers understand just how to basically build a healthier life, healthier workflows, collaborate stronger, get more done quicker, and again, be happy while they do it.

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So looking to scale to 2,000, 3,000 customers, we're rooting for you, Alex. Thanks for taking us to the top. Thank you so much.

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