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Trucker Sells his Company for $300k cash, Launches $1m ARR SaaS

31 Jan 2023

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Chapter 1: What is SaaS Open and why is it significant for SaaS founders?

0.031 - 16.38 Nathan Latka

Guys, SaaS Open is our next big event in New York City. March 16th and 17th, we'll have a thousand SaaS leaders all sharing how they built their companies. Our keynotes are Henry Shuck, Marie Martins from Tally.sao, Serby from Symbol, Christopher of DocHub, who had a big exit.

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Again, hundreds of speakers, a thousand plus attendees, and we've got folks bringing their entire executive teams because we have stages for founders,

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heads of product head of finance mbd cmos and cro's and then people in hr stage it's gonna be special prices are increasing every week so you don't want to wait go to sasopen.com right now to see what the ticket price is and lock in your spot today again that's sasopen.com march 16th and 17th in new york city tickets are almost sold out

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82.03 - 97.876 Nathan Latka

Guys, this is the great story of a founder who built a tool for himself. He ran his own trucking company in Atlanta, had 20 trucks. He made 15,000 top line per truck, 5,000 net, ended up selling that business for a 3x EBITDA multiple because he got excited about the software, the compliance software for trucking companies.

97.896 - 120.461 Nathan Latka

He now has over 700 trucking businesses signed up, which equals 1,400 drivers signed They pay on average $300 per year, but that's just the recurring fee. There's another 300 bucks per year they make per driver on one time fee. So caught around a million dollar run rate today. He's hoping to break 3 million this year up from 750,000 done in 2022. Hey folks, my guest today is Amkaram Chandani.

120.601 - 137.148 Nathan Latka

He is the founder and CEO of a company called FleetDrive360.com. He's a tech leader with a track record of over 25 years in the space, now working on this comprehensive cloud-based solution to manage FMCSA and DOT compliance. So explain that in a second. Am, you ready to take us to the top?

138.17 - 138.41 Amkaram Chandani

Sure.

Chapter 2: How did the guest transition from trucking to software development?

346.758 - 357.257 Amkaram Chandani

And, you know, seven out of 10, Trucking companies go out of business because of the compliance issues. Either they are not safe to operate or they have any compliance issues.

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358.199 - 364.232 Nathan Latka

When you say you run a trucking company, how many trucks did you have on your balance sheet for your company?

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364.252 - 365.875 Amkaram Chandani

20 trucks at the top.

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365.895 - 370.645 Nathan Latka

So you would actually buy the truck and then you have to make sure they're compliant to actually make money doing deliveries and driving?

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371.086 - 397.66 Amkaram Chandani

Yes. That is correct. So you have to have compliant drivers who actually do the drug and alcohol consortium. You also need to have the vehicle maintenance records. You also need to do a lot of additional things on the safety. You get a DOT inspection on the road. And if there's any non-compliance, they will flag you and then your safety scores will take a hit. So all those kind of things.

397.64 - 420.728 Amkaram Chandani

So when I was doing it, I found that there's no one single solution available. There's a lot of service providers. What they were doing was they were doing manual, like Excel, OneDrive kind of stuff. And I don't get visibility into my trucking company and how I'm doing, whether I'm safe, I'm compliant, I'm not compliant. And nobody could actually give me the services.

420.708 - 428.86 Amkaram Chandani

So I created my own small system because every company has to go through the audit first year within first year. It's called new.

428.88 - 432.085 Nathan Latka

When did you write the first line of code for fleet drive 360? What year?

432.105 - 433.667 Amkaram Chandani

2020. Okay.

Chapter 3: What is FMCSA and DOT compliance in the trucking industry?

523.796 - 529.441 Nathan Latka

Did you employ 20 drivers full-time on your payroll or did you let them rent your trucks and then they could do what they wanted?

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529.481 - 530.863 Amkaram Chandani

They were my employees.

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531.744 - 538.21 Nathan Latka

Interesting. Okay. So then where would you get orders from? How would you know you needed to take a delivery to Illinois?

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539.351 - 545.217 Amkaram Chandani

So there are brokers and they're called the freight brokers. They're the top three.

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Okay.

546.308 - 554.718 Amkaram Chandani

J.B. Hunt, then TQL, then C.H. Robinson.

556.24 - 572.198 Nathan Latka

I'm going to interview. I'm going to go get all of them. I'm going to interview all of them. Okay. So you get your deal flow, your sales from these freight brokers, and then you deploy your drivers, your 20 drivers. Right. Interesting. Interesting. Now, can you finance the trucks? Will someone give you a loan for you to buy the truck and then

572.583 - 586.314 Amkaram Chandani

Yeah. So I was leasing most of my trucks and only own few trucks because leasing, I have to, you know, not worry about the maintenance and truck, you know, repairs and everything. A leasing company takes care of those.

586.335 - 602.488 Nathan Latka

So I was leasing rather than buying, but a lot of people- That's included, that lease cost is included in the 10,000 monthly expense per truck, right? That is correct. Okay. Okay. Then you said you sold this. Again, I only know B2B SaaS. How does a trucking company get like what you had get valued?

Chapter 4: How does FleetDrive360 generate revenue from trucking companies?

880.244 - 881.405 Amkaram Chandani

They just wanted to balance it out.

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882.046 - 888.712 Nathan Latka

Okay. Well, that's good. That helps you save a little bit of equity. Right. How has the debt worked for you? Has it been good? Will you do more debt in the future, you think?

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889.693 - 915.013 Amkaram Chandani

I will do the debt in future, for sure. More than equity? More than equity. Why is that? Yeah, because I... I think when we start, we know where we can take this company to. Right now it's growing and it's growing very fast. So even if I have to give up a certain percentage of equity, I know it's much more valuable three years from now, which I can cash anytime.

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915.297 - 935.922 Nathan Latka

Yeah. Yeah. Well, FounderPath's got $150 million fund and all we do is non-dilutive capital to SaaS founders. So we could give you up to 50% of your ARR at a rate, a discount rate, something between 7% and 12%. So we'll chat afterwards. I'd love to help you out. Sure. That's awesome. All right. All right. Tell me more about your teams today. How many folks are full-time?

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936.762 - 958.309 Amkaram Chandani

So we have an offshore development center in Bangalore. My other company, like Metromex, we do a lot of IT and BPO. So we have about seven people, developers. We have seven or eight salespeople onshore in the US. And then we have about six or seven operations folks.

958.449 - 976.265 Nathan Latka

Okay. So like 20, 22 people, something like that. Six of them offshore dev shop. Okay. This makes tons of sense. Now, let me think. What else am I missing here? I mean, how do you go from... You mentioned you're adding 200 to 300 customers per month right now. That's incredible growth. How are you adding customers?

977.487 - 984.959 Amkaram Chandani

It's primarily cold calling. So we get the data of all the new companies that get registered. And we cold call them.

984.979 - 988.504 Nathan Latka

How do you get that data? Is that public, the government you're required from a government directory?

989.311 - 997.46 Amkaram Chandani

They're third-party companies who actually provide access to the data, and they collect all the data from different sources.

Chapter 5: How did the guest acquire his first customers for FleetDrive360?

1031.962 - 1043.038 Amkaram Chandani

Within six months, they're going to get audited. And if they don't have the information, they will be in a kind of shutdown operation or they will have, you know, certain, yeah.

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1043.058 - 1046.183 Nathan Latka

So if this is required, imagine there's a lot of companies doing this. Who's your biggest competitor?

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1047.53 - 1055.963 Amkaram Chandani

So I would say JJ Keller and Foley services. Those are my competitors, but they don't have the first one again.

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1055.983 - 1056.464 Nathan Latka

What was their name?

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1057.325 - 1058.287 Amkaram Chandani

JJ Keller.

1059.048 - 1060.39 Nathan Latka

JJ Keller. Interesting. Okay.

1061.351 - 1064.536 Amkaram Chandani

And Foley services, F O L E Y services.

1065.137 - 1068.603 Nathan Latka

Huh? Okay. So no, are they software as well or no?

1069.584 - 1075.393 Amkaram Chandani

They have a little bit of platform, but it's more manual. You know, they just manage the processes, but not the platform.

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