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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders

Why SaaS Founders Use Them as SDR's, First Sales Hire

11 Jul 2021

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Chapter 1: What is the goal for annual recurring revenue this year?

0.031 - 12.758 Andre Zinkovich

So I feel this year we would be able to reach at least 100k in annual recurring revenue at the end of the year. So at least this is my goal for this year. If it will be better, I will be happy.

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14.847 - 27.764 Nathan Latka

You are listening to Conversations with Nathan Latka, where I sit down and interview the top SaaS founders, like Eric Wan from Zoom. If you'd like to subscribe, go to getlatka.com.

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27.784 - 50.717 Nathan Latka

We've published thousands of these interviews, and if you want to sort through them quickly by revenue or churn, CAC, valuation, or other metrics, the easiest way to do that is to go to getlatka.com and use our filtering tool. It's like a big Excel sheet for all of these podcast interviews. Check it out right now at getlatka.com. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Andre Zinkovich.

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50.737 - 67.924 Nathan Latka

He's the founder of FullFunnel.io and ROI Planning, Marketing Planning Platform. He lives and breathes B2B marketing all the way since back 2007. He's the author of LinkedIn Content Marketing, How to Generate High-Quality Leads on LinkedIn Without Cold Messaging. Ads did very well in terms of books.

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Chapter 2: Who is Andre Zinkovich and what is his background?

67.944 - 70.167 Nathan Latka

We're excited to chat with him today. Andre, you ready to take us to the top?

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70.805 - 76.53 Andre Zinkovich

Yeah, exactly. Thanks a lot for inviting me. Thanks a lot for having me on your show.

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76.67 - 82.536 Nathan Latka

You bet. So let's pick one to focus on. FullFunnel.io and ROI plan. Which one of these did more revenue in 2020?

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83.737 - 94.346 Andre Zinkovich

FullFunnel.io because ROI plan is still a startup that should be validated this year. So we can touch it, but let's chat about FullFunnel.io.

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94.366 - 98.23 Nathan Latka

Okay, great. And what does FullFunnel.io do? What's the revenue model?

98.851 - 121.618 Andre Zinkovich

So it's a consultancy. And in the last quarter, we also added a subscription, let's say, product called Full Funnel Academy by the trained B2B marketers with a focus on growing B2B companies with complex and long sales cycles. But basically, the key revenue comes from consultant projects.

122.059 - 124.622 Nathan Latka

And how much consulting revenue did you do in 2020?

125.429 - 151.487 Andre Zinkovich

So, you know, we have a couple of services. One, let's say our key service is partnering with B2B marketing and sales teams, where we join their teams as team extension, or let's say as an advisors. And at the same time, we are partnering with European accelerators like IMEC in Ghent or ScaleUp Flanders in Antwerp in Belgium.

151.467 - 184.364 Andre Zinkovich

And basically, that's another product where we train the startups on these areas which belong to our key expertise. So when it comes to consultant projects, we accomplished around, if I'm correct, 27 projects last year. And in terms of collaborating with startups from these accelerators, we trained or coached let me calculate the right figure. So it's like 51 startup in total.

Chapter 3: What services does FullFunnel.io provide?

418.818 - 420.744 Andre Zinkovich

You mean community members?

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421.185 - 423.452 Nathan Latka

No, the communities you run, the name of the community.

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424.054 - 426.26 Andre Zinkovich

The B2B marketers and founders on Facebook.

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426.28 - 427.925 Nathan Latka

And what platform on Facebook? Okay.

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428.126 - 428.968 Andre Zinkovich

On Facebook, yes.

429.61 - 430.954 Nathan Latka

How many members are in that group?

431.17 - 455.824 Andre Zinkovich

So it's 4K, but basically just to give you an idea, it's not the biggest one, but I believe this is one of the most quality communities just because on the feedback of community members, because we don't allow everybody to jump into the community despite its free community. So we decline, let's say, 80% of inquiries. That's why. That's right.

456.064 - 469.14 Andre Zinkovich

So basically, I was reaching out to people with who I have established a good relationship. And I knew that companies might be an ICP for our plan. And that's it. Just because of... When did you launch the group?

469.16 - 472.284 Nathan Latka

It's at 3,900 members right now. When did you launch the group? What year?

Chapter 4: How much consulting revenue did FullFunnel.io generate in 2020?

502.822 - 519.665 Andre Zinkovich

I can't treat it as a sales revenue because we did a promotion basically to collect the feedback, you know, before launching the book. And we are product hunt. We sold, if I'm correct, around 2000 copies, but the price was something around five bucks.

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520.386 - 522.609 Nathan Latka

Yeah. Of the book or of ROI plan?

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523.31 - 523.771 Andre Zinkovich

Of the book.

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524.191 - 531.301 Nathan Latka

So you sold 500 on Gumroad, 3000 on Amazon and 2000 on product hunt. So about 5500 total copies sold. That's great. Congratulations.

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531.662 - 532.643 Andre Zinkovich

Thank you so much.

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599.625 - 625.446 Nathan Latka

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Chapter 5: When was the software business ROI plan launched?

797.316 - 811.218 Andre Zinkovich

And basically, we did exactly what we wanted. I mean, we implemented the features we wanted to implement. We listened to the potential customers. And that's why right now I'm going to monetize it and bring the new customers to this software.

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812.039 - 814.983 Nathan Latka

And what are your total expenses right now for ROI plan?

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815.804 - 826.039 Andre Zinkovich

So in total, I can just open the spreadsheet. So far, it's like 79,000 zloty. It's our Polish currency. So it's around 20,000 euros.

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826.86 - 828.222 Nathan Latka

Okay, 20,000 euros per month?

829.364 - 832.468 Andre Zinkovich

No, no. It's just all the investments in total.

832.508 - 835.132 Nathan Latka

What did you spend last month on expenses on ROI plan?

835.933 - 841 Andre Zinkovich

So it was like around 3,000.

841.132 - 853.264 Nathan Latka

Okay, got it. So not too bad. And when do you think right now, I mean, you have one person paying 150 bucks a month. That's really your only recurring revenue right now. I mean, what do you think you can grow it to by the end of the year?

Chapter 6: How did Andre acquire his first paying customers?

1062.317 - 1079.5 Nathan Latka

He did about a quarter million dollars in revenue last year. He's using that agency revenue to build a SaaS product called ROIplan.io to help you create, manage, and control all of your marketing plans. He's got a few customers at $150 a month spending $3,000 total right now per month on full expenses. Two founders, four developers based in Warsaw, Poland.

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1079.58 - 1088.893 Nathan Latka

Average salary there is between $20 and $40 per hour. No plans to raise capital. Bootstrap today looking to scale so they can potentially go out and hire more engineers to accelerate his product

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1088.873 - 1096.808 Andre Zinkovich

roadmap kate uh thanks for taking us to the top andre thank you so much for having me today and it was a pleasure to chat with you

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