Writer and runner Gordon Clark joins Howie for a wide-ranging conversation on movement, mindset, and the art of making something real. From his early days with Nike Run Club to his short-lived boxing career in Downtown LA, Gordon shares how sport became his medium and how ritual became his map. We dive into his screenwriting process, the spiritual logic of unsanctioned races, and why The Speed Project is so beautiful in its chaos. He talks Kaizen, Mayweather, basketball, and why LA is still missing its trail-running renaissance. More than anything, Gordon reminds us that the work isn’t just in the art — it’s in the miles, the rituals, and the remix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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