What’s it like to fly when you’re fat?
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Okay. All right. Here's the intro. Welcome to Search Engine. I'm PJ Vogt. No question too big. No question too small. This week, a question about bodies. The only body I've ever been trapped inside of is my own. There's a lot of places this show goes. Taboos, uncomfortable thoughts we like to explore. Bodies and their weight? Not a place we have visited. which is not for lack of thinking about it. It's funny, if you made a chart of the things I talk about versus the things I think about, I think about my own body, its weight, the ways it is aging, so much more than I ever talk about it. And I wonder often about other people, not what it's like to live in their bodies, not what it would be like to be bigger or smaller, but more, what is the conversation their mind is having with and about their body? Is it as loud as mine? This persistent? This strange? This week, we're visiting other minds and other bodies.
We're gonna ask a question I've wondered about, and honestly, I always felt nervous, like it'd be a little too impolite or direct to ask about. If you have a big body, what is it like to get inside one of the most cramped, small, uncomfortable spaces we all have to wedge into? What's it like to get on an airplane? The world of that question is much richer and deeper than I would have thought.
Cool? Yeah, that's good. That's good. Are you concerned about saying fat? Yeah, I feel like, am I allowed to say fat?
Ronald Young Jr. He's a podcaster, a writer. He thinks about this stuff.
I love, let me tell you, it's funny because like this is the toughest conversation for me to have because the truth is we are trying to make fat just a flat descriptor, but so much damage has been done using the word fat as an insult that it's tough to hear straight size people say it. And it's tough for straight size people to say it without adding some sort of like disclaimer or apology in the beginning of the end of it. But it is okay to say fat. It is. But the way you said it is also fine. I just wanted you to know that's okay. And it's tough to start getting out there and saying it because it means you have to purge it from your language as an insult.
Ronald has a podcast called Wait For It, where he writes stories and interviews people about their bodies, usually about fatness. Listening to Wait for It, it doesn't exactly feel like eavesdropping on somebody else's experience. You more feel like you've just been let into a very private club. It's the thing I look for in art, the thrill of inhabiting someone else's mind.
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