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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Neale Daniher's legacy?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim.
Great to have you with us this morning. We're remembering Neil Danaher. I just spoke to the brother, Terry. He had a lot of... His boys were mainly from the two... He started in 98 as a coach. And the prelim final was great. But that was kind of the end of an era.
Chapter 2: How did Neale Daniher impact his players during his coaching career?
A lot of us retired in the next year. But his boys really developed from 2000 on, which was the year that they made the grand final. And then he coached for the next six or seven years. And he had a couple of... I think he had a couple of favourites. We're going to talk to two of them.
David Neitz was one of them, the former Melbourne captain, Hall of Famer and the big freeze, eighth slider, and he joins us on the line. Morning, Neitz.
Chapter 3: What memorable moments stand out from Neale Daniher's coaching?
A sad morning, mate, but an opportunity to remember a great man.
Yeah, it goes. Yeah, thanks for that. It was, yeah, he's an amazing person. And you're right, you know, he did take over the team. in 98 had some hard decisions to make and had to make one with you really at the start with your skippership at that point in time which which I know he had to deliver that message to you, which he does in brutal fashion sometimes.
But the gravity of the position as coach and his want for the team to get better and grow was evident really from day one. And he had an immediate impact really.
He loved you boys, like the 2000 grand final and on. I've heard all of your talk. And when we get together and reminisce, that was his group, wasn't it? I mean, you took over the captaincy from Toddy, I think. And then from that moment on, it was your team and it was his team.
Chapter 4: How did David Neitz reflect on his relationship with Neale?
Yeah, yeah, no, it was always his team from the start, I think. When he came in and, you know, I'm sure you've reflected that he took us all to school out at Caulfield and really wanted to educate us on how to play the game and, you know, a great educator that he was. And then, you know, when it came to executing, he was pretty fierce and pretty clear on what he wanted to do.
But you're right, we sort of were a young team in 2000 We got to the grand final and we didn't get the ultimate success but we had a good team. We gave ourselves plenty of looks in the final series and it built a brilliant relationship with all of our boys.
And I guess one that wasn't built on a huge amount of empathy, Gaz, but it was built on mutual respect and absolute clarity and everyone knowing where they sat.
Anita, how did your relationship with him, because you have an interesting relationship when you play a coach, but you and he have become sort of friends over time as well. How did all that play out?
Yeah, well, you know, it wasn't always as straightforward as that, Tim. I do remember I'd been Skipper for a few years and we played a game. I can't remember who it was. And, you know, we had a couple of bad games in a row. And Neil said, get the leadership group, go over and have a chat and work out what's going on and come back to me.
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Chapter 5: What lessons did Neale Daniher impart on his players?
And I said, Cam Baird said, Neil, we've had a chat and it's just a bit of a pressure cooker environment at the moment, you know. We need to just relax and just move on from this game and just chill out a little bit, you know. It's too tense. And so Neil goes, yep, yep, yep. And then he gets us into the room and just goes through the video and gives everyone the most almighty spray of all time.
And I'm not even listening to the spray. I'm going, this bastard, I've had this conversation and he's done exactly the opposite of what I said we needed to do. So after the meeting, I took myself to the gym for a minute or two to cool down, went into Neil's office, and I said, well, mate, what the hell was that? You know, I just had this chat with you.
Chapter 6: How did Neale's coaching style evolve over time?
And he goes, you know what, Nita, you stick to playing. And that was the end of that meeting.
That is magnificent, mate. We're not going to hold you up. We know you've got a fair bit on your plate at the moment. And it is just beautiful to, when you hear those stories, you can understand and get a, and that's what we're doing this morning. We're trying to give people that didn't have the joy of knowing him or in our case, playing under him, just an insight into his personality.
And I know how much you love him and how much he loved you, mate. So it's a tough morning and, our thoughts with you and look forward to catching up and having a beer. I think we're getting together on Friday, so that'll be a good thing.
Yeah thanks Gaz and Tim and thanks for all your support and I know you've continued to support his fight against the Beast as well so you guys have been amazing and I know how much he loves and respects you guys as well.
100% mate, appreciate it there's David Neats and now we'll jump on to one of Anita's great mates and this is a player whose name may not be as recognisable from a football point of view but he's had as big an impact as anyone in recent times around the Melbourne Footy Club and his friendship and relationship. with Neil with Special. Paul Hopgood joins us on the line. G'day, Hop. G'day, Gaz.
G'day, Tim. How are you? Going okay, mate. How are you going? It's been a... I know how difficult it is for everyone, but your relationship with him, just give us how he devolved from a player that used to get on the receiving end of a couple of cooks, let's be honest, into now someone that was as close to him as anyone.
Yeah, it's been interesting. Like I think Nita would have said as well, mate, he was a hard-ass and he didn't hold back on any of us at the time. And you talk about empathy, again, that's probably one of the things he did build on along the way and he did evolve along the way probably after his coaching.
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Chapter 7: What were the challenges faced by Neale Daniher and how did he overcome them?
But when we first... He first got hold of all of us guys. He came in and it was his way or the highway and yeah, he was full on and in a really positive way as well. I think what people don't realise as much is he was a real educator. He actually did teach us a lot.
He taught us a lot about footy when he sat us down and got us to play the right way and he had to take a side that finished bottom into a into a prelim for next year and a grand final within three years is a pretty amazing effort when you look back at it. But he taught us a lot of lessons about life and that was probably the biggest thing.
And my ability to connect to him was probably to challenge him in all ways, shapes and forms of the opposite of what he's probably thought and believed and worked through. But his ability to grab hold of people who need a bit of harnessing and take him forward was probably... something that he prided himself on and was one of his great legacies that he's going to be leaving behind.
When did you go from being scared of him to seeing him for who he was and that was someone that cared so very deeply about not only you guys as players but also as young men?
I think it was after we finished. Look, Gary, he sacked most of us. That's the whole thing. And I think it was only the golden boy, Nita, he didn't sack. He's the one that's with it. So we all stayed close to Nita to try and ride his coattails to keep on Neil's good side.
But I think the thing where it changed a bit is that I think he realised that we had a pretty good bunch of guys and he got the most out of most of the people that he did coach. And I think that's a sign of a good coach as well, is that they're improving or developing or better than... what they were or when he first met them to achieve things is a positive thing.
But his other aspect, I suppose, was that he... I think he realised that...
um he was he was highly regarded and well looked up to and and i think that he's changed in regards to you know although we didn't achieve a lot to to be able to support guys and and and look out for them he'd be always flicking me a text saying have you heard from so-and-so and do we need to reach out and you know he he just had that father figure approach about him mate that evolved after his after his coaching
So the opportunity is going to present itself to catch up and gather and have a couple of beers at the end of this week, which will be a great thing cathartic.
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Chapter 8: What enduring memories do players have of Neale Daniher?
What will be the enduring memory for you?
I just think his ability to make choices and that you own your choices and how he's ingrained that into everyone as well. With adversity and...
and and challenges that come through that you know he still controlled his choices and he still owned his choices and and that's what he wanted to do and that was his way of dealing with everything as well and i think he's been able to get that message through through to you know the the broader community as well you know that it's just you know we all have some good and bad days that goes with it and we all have some challenges that come along the way but
You have that power of choice and I think his ability to do that and to play on. He's a bloke who has had as much adversity as anyone even through his footy career that was cut short and coaching, not getting the ultimate success, but bringing a group together and achieving something to this horrible disease that was thrown his way. He just...
had this amazing ability to play on take it on hit it head on and do it with a sense of humour like he's a funny man and he traded off that as well and I said to Jan the other day I actually I miss his cackle that cackle laugh Tim that he's had that he'd laugh at his own jokes and that I just would love to hear that one more time but yeah
Yeah, I just think to take on these challenges and hit them head on and face adversity, be selfless in his approach to it all and give a lot of people a lot of life lessons will be the things that I remember the most.
Well said. Beautiful, mate. I appreciate you jumping on. I know just how close you've become with him and you've done amazing stuff as well in supporting him and we and you and others will continue to do that. Thanks for jumping on this morning.
Yeah, and make sure you two guys look after yourselves as well. Yeah, it's been a pretty challenging time. So thanks for that.
Thanks, Hop. So Terry Danaher, David Neitz and Paul Hop could remember Neil Danaher this morning. And as people will realise, the football news cycle doesn't stop regardless of circumstance. And whilst we are all remembering the great man this morning, there is massive footy news that has just broken and Sam Edmund has wandered into the studio. Sammy, good morning. Good morning.
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