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"If this isn't cleared up, then we have a problem" | Garry re: Wizard's no goal ruling (03.06.26)
02 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What did Razor Ray explain about the AFL rules?
What did Ray have to say on your program last night?
Because this was one of the more interesting things I've seen in a long, long time. Yeah. So one of the fundamentals is that you've got to understand, I don't profess to know every rule in footy. No. Maybe I should, but I don't.
No, but I don't think any, I would doubt that there are many commentators out there. And Ray even said yesterday, he's an umpire, he even said that he went back and read the rule book.
And he said every umpire should do it as well. Refresh I'd say he should be across and that is the AFL and the AFL umpiring department So the whole Nick Watson situation, right? So I would say the vast vast majority said that was a wrong decision But they they ever saying it for the it was the wrong decision not knowing what the rule was, right?
They're just saying I didn't go off his arc, you know, it was only minimal bubba bubba And then the AFL come out on the back of the heavy criticism and do what the AFL do now We've reviewed this This is the AFL and the umpires department. Yes. With time on their hands, they can take as long as they want. They've got all the resources in the world there.
This is the organization that's running the game.
That's right. There'd be a rule book floating around somewhere in the AFL offices.
So they've come out and said, no, no, it's a correct decision. That is the correct decision. Yes. And then Ray brought this to the table yesterday. This is rule 20.5.1 section B.
Slow down when you read this too because I want people to digest... Do you want both parts of it or not? Yes, I do.
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Chapter 2: How did the AFL respond to the criticism regarding the no goal ruling?
So that thing there is the mark, to the centre of the attacking team's goal line. So you get lined up, that's where you've got to kick it, except, and this is the point, in the following cases, this is subsection B, where the kick will occur after the siren. So this puts us in the Nick Watson situation.
The player shall be entitled to approach the mark from any direction as long as the location of the kick is Does not improve the angle to the goalposts. Repeat that. The player shall be entitled to approach the mark from any direction. So you're on the mark. I can come from any direction. Any direction, yeah. As long as the location of the kick.
So where you kick it from doesn't improve the angle to the goalposts. That's the important part. So Nick Watson lines himself up with the man on the mark, as we've all seen. He starts to come in. He went to his right, not his left. He deviates to the right marginally and kicks the goal. Did it improve the angle as in subsection B of 20.5? No, it didn't.
So, therefore, according to the rule book- According to the rules-
All clear. All clear. So how? A goal, a sausage roll. So you know what they should do? They should correct that now. That score, that score should be changed. Well, no, they can't now. Of course you can. No, you can't. It's an error. The AFL should correct. According to their own rules, it was an error.
Well, so was Olly Dempsey. Yeah, well. We're not going to run around for the next week changing rules, changing scores. But the AFL need to correct. You should be able to do that, by the way. I do that in other sports. Later in the game, they change the score. Muddy the water. The AFL need to come out today and say, apologise, we were wrong on this. Otherwise, where are we at, Tim?
I don't want to be pedantic about this.
No, but you should be pedantic about this.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of rule 20.5.1 section B in AFL?
But where are we at in this game? And you wonder about confusion and you wonder about attitudes to umpires and supporters and everyone else. Where are we at if there's a factually wrong decision made that the AFL then come out and endorse on the Monday? All that does is add to the confusion, adds to the doubt about umpires, continues to put pressure on the umpires.
And now we've got doubt about whether the AFL will know the rules.
Okay, respond to this and somebody out there says improving the angle is subjective.
Well, no, it's not subjective because if Nick Watson goes to the right, the angle of the goal face lessens. That's right. It's decreased. That's right.
If he goes to the left, he opens up the goal face and improves the angle.
I don't think that's subjective at all. If Nick Watson was a left footer. for instance, and he comes in on that line, on the line of the mark, straight, and then veers out to the left. Correct. Then no goal because you are improving the angle. And so, in effect, he could have run at right angles and snapped at right angles if he wanted to. It wouldn't have made any sense.
Okay. Where in the rule does it mention the person on the mark is? In terms of, do you have to kick over or do you, you can't go past the person on the mark? No. In that instance, clearly.
This is where the kick will occur after the place you've been told to approach the mark from any direction. Yes. Right. And then. As long as the location of the kick doesn't improve the angle. So you don't have to go over the mark. As long as it's not improving the angle. So it's like if you were on a really tight angle, for instance, then you can run to the boundary line and kick the goal.
It's not going to help you because it's going to make the angle worse.
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Chapter 4: How does the Nick Watson situation illustrate the rule's application?
I'm happy to cop it on that because when Ray brought that in yesterday ā I don't want to speak for Gerard because he knows nearly everything. I'm not sure. Maybe he did know. But I didn't know that that was the interpretation of it. And that needs to be cleared up, does it not?
It does. And I'm sure Dermot won't mind me using his name here. He's just sent a text. Of course they should add a further six points to the score because there was no further play after that kick. It's different to the Dempsey play. And adding that to the score now because there was further play after that, but it was a dead ball after that kick.
Okay. So if St Kilda, when the final siren sounded, they're playing St Kilda, weren't they? Yep. So the siren sounds and St Kilda win by four points.
Yep.
Are you suggesting that they will then lose by two points?
Yes. Yeah. That would be an adjustment to the score. I can't see that happening. No, I can't see it happening either. No. But do you support the fact that they should be able to change the score during the game when they realise that there's been a howl like that? No, I can't see how that can work.
Why? I have to give it more thought. It happens in other sports, you know, don't you? Yeah, I know. Well, yes, I heard the boys talking about this in basketball. If there's a mistake that's been made, yeah, they just add it to the score. Yeah, well, but then it changes, then the ball then should have gone back to the centre bounce, like it changes everything. How do you work that out?
Yes, but the score should ā there was an error made at that time. You don't need to worry about that part of it. The error was made at that time, and the incorrect score was put up on the board. That's the part that needs to be altered.
All right. Well, I can't deal with that at the moment. I'm dealing with all the questions that are coming through here. But, Gary, what is the scope? Watson couldn't run ā oh, jeez. They're coming through too quickly, yeah. Gary, what is the scope? Watson couldn't run 10 metres to the right, can he? Well, yes. According to this, yes, he can. He could have run out 10 metres to the right.
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