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SEN Breakfast

Questions Without Notice (18.06.26)

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of Perth travel experiences?

0.031 - 12.879 Gary Lyon

Breakfast with Gary and team. The IMA trade-off. Questions without notice for IMA. Protecting tradies and builders for over 35 years. Call 13IMA to get covered today.

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13.32 - 30.597 Tim Watson

Join us now for questions without notice. You've got a whole half hour of it and then Corey's going to set us up for a big round 15. There's lots of messages. Deep breaths now, Tim. This is a time to be very cool and calm. Robert says you don't watch enough AFL footy. But don't. Rob's only trying to get a rise out of you. Okay.

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31.317 - 37.584 Tim Watson

I'm happy to deal with the Frio stuff because I haven't heard this commentary from Mark Duffield, who's part of our SEN network.

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Chapter 2: How are local products impacting the Suns team?

38.025 - 53.882 Tim Watson

And Simon Garley had Simon Garley on his radio station over in SEN. The story yesterday from John Ralph was about the chartered flights that the Frio dockers have got. We spoke about it at length. I said how great it was. You were complimentary. How that has been interpreted. Let's have a listen.

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54.25 - 68.764 Andrew Coulthard

What do you make of comments like the ones Gary Lyon made? Basically the fact that you've been flying charter flights, which I think you've been doing for a little while now, but that that's a leg up over the competition, despite your travel itinerary.

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69.565 - 82.738 Mark Mitchell

I would take from a performance perspective, staying home for three months during a year, which some Victorian clubs do, and not having charters, overflying 56,000 kilometres and having charters any day of the week, from a pure performance point of view.

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83.073 - 92.887 Mark Mitchell

So I think it's, you know, it's obviously a reactionary position some in the media are taking based on them just understanding for the first time that this is in place.

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93.428 - 104.524 Andrew Coulthard

Yeah, I think perhaps we won't get any headway or traction on this unless one of the clubs over here decided, OK, let's just embed one of these blokes in the club.

104.504 - 134.275 Andrew Coulthard

for a season and he can get on and off the planes with the team and fly over and back and over and back and over and back and over and back etc etc and then sort of understand the impact of travel and the cumulative effect of travel on the teams and the athletes in particular who are playing games while they're doing this and until you get that I think there's a lack of understanding this isn't a leg up by any stretch of the imagination all it does is decrease that disadvantage as I mentioned

134.255 - 142.222 Garry Lyon

Look, I don't want to get personal, but I'm renaming him. He's going to be called Mark Nuffield from now on. I can't.

143.162 - 148.807 Tim Watson

Is he a touch of condescending? He's a bit of a smug. He's almost a smug bozo. That's what he was nearly getting at.

148.827 - 149.648 Garry Lyon

No, there's a lot of smugglers.

Chapter 3: What details are emerging about Jack Gunston's injury?

163.479 - 164.16 Garry Lyon

I can't remember what you said.

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164.14 - 179.658 Tim Watson

How great it was. It was a positive. I wasn't saying, oh, look, Freo are going to get this great advantage. I'm saying that this is what should have happened. I'm saying this is a fantastic thing for them. They deserve it, and it is the hardest travel. You think we're stupid.

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179.718 - 188.528 Tim Watson

Do you think we sit here and go, oh, those Western Australians, we're going to give it to them because we don't think that traveling is all that hard. I mean, we're not.

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188.508 - 189.691 Garry Lyon

Well, you've been on a plane.

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189.751 - 194.562 Tim Watson

Oh, come on, Mark. You've flown across the other side of the country. You're better than that, Mark. Well, I thought you were better than that.

194.582 - 202.16 Garry Lyon

And you've been embedded with Fremantle too, so nobody's been more complimentary about the Fremantle Dockers than what you have.

202.18 - 219.915 Tim Watson

So let's be very clear about this. The travel schedules of the Western Australian teams, as we've spoken about many times, players that play, have long careers, that fly that route all the time. We cannot be more expansive in our praise for the way they do it. I couldn't do it. I think it is a massive impost.

219.895 - 235.482 Tim Watson

So, the point is, the fact that charter flights have come about on the back of Johnny Ralph's article, and then Simmo alerted us to the fact that West Coast have been doing, is absolutely the right thing that should happen for these West Australian sides to try and mitigate the challenge.

235.542 - 243.355 Tim Watson

And the month they've had at home, for a month, we're not saying, oh, look at the massive advantage they've had. How good for Freo that they've been able to stay at home for a month.

Chapter 4: How does travel affect the performance of AFL teams?

260.716 - 283.146 Garry Lyon

You clearly weren't watching this morning the England-Croatia game because the rolling around and the absolute nonsense that was taking place out there. We love the game, by the way, but clearly that's something that's tolerated in the game of soccer. Clearly it is. And AFL players, yes, they do some acting occasionally, but everybody points it out. And you're fine now.

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283.126 - 291.438 Garry Lyon

you can get a fine for it, but clearly it doesn't happen. I know it's supposed to. I know you're supposed to get sent off or something. No, not sent off. It can be yellow carded for a country.

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291.538 - 307.682 Tim Watson

4-2, by the way, that game has finished. England have won comfortably and then a ripping game of soccer, football. Cracker. Hey, John Longmore, I want you to interpret. This is what he had to say last night on the reports that he is now coveting the coaching role of the Tassie Devils.

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I, among many people in the industry, have been spoken to Tasmania, but that has been quite open about that. As far as Tassie are concerned as well, they've spoken to everyone in the industry. I was one of them. And so as far as I know, there's no decisions being made. Yeah, it was a couple of weeks ago, but he's spoken to a number of people.

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And whether they're past coaches, current coaches, he's spoken to plenty of people in the industry. I think everyone knows that. I don't think it's a great surprise that I was one of them. There's no point in sort of speculating what may happen down the track. It's not at that point as far as I'm concerned or Tassie are concerned or any other clubs are concerned.

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All the coaches, all the positions, all the clubs that are looking for positions aren't in that situation at the moment. Tassie, I don't think, have made a decision and certainly the coaches involved haven't made decisions. So it's just not at that point. It's a bit too early to be going with headlines like all in.

358.889 - 361.632 Garry Lyon

Did you ask him whether or not he wants to coach again?

Chapter 5: What role do charter flights play for Western Australian teams?

361.932 - 363.576 Garry Lyon

Or is he not allowed to answer that question?

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363.596 - 383.265 Tim Watson

No, the fact that he's taken the call for me, and I laugh about this because I asked him about three times last year and he ended up saying that was enough. But I think my interpretation is that he's at least open to hearing what's out there. So, yeah, that's a step closer. Now, he may or may not do it, horse. He may decide that he's happy where he is.

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383.325 - 392.022 Tim Watson

But he's spoken to Brendan Gale amongst a whole heap of others, as he just told us. But that suggests that, well, at least he's prepared to talk.

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393.085 - 416.997 Garry Lyon

What do you think? I think that he wants to coach again. Why? Because I do. I hear that he does want to coach again. I think that he's had his time out. I think he is a coach, and there are people out there who, like, you know, Dennis Pagan and Tommy. I remember Tommy, like, a long time after he finished coaching at Collingwood and Richmond and everywhere else he coached. Tommy Havey.

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417.037 - 436.422 Garry Lyon

Tommy Havey. I remember I was with Tommy one day, and, We're talking, we're having a coffee somewhere and he started talking as a coach and I thought, you know, like if Tommy got a call, he might have been in his 70s then or maybe even older. He had to got a call up the next day. He would have been there quick sticks and he would have coached again. Like he's a coach now.

436.402 - 444.255 Tim Watson

I think there are some people out there who are coaches to their core. But Johnny's capable. Clearly, he's a capable man, and he's doing corporate stuff.

444.315 - 461.338 Garry Lyon

Yeah, but Gary, that doesn't move you. I know people, and you know people, that have moved from club land to AFL land, and they... they find a great difference in job satisfaction actually working in a different environment to the one that they're associated with. And I think the same thing applies to coaches.

Chapter 6: How are the Burley Bombers contributing to AFL talent?

461.378 - 474.199 Garry Lyon

They want to be coached. They want to have the reins. They want to be at the cut and thrust of the game. This is an easy question for you to answer. Who's got a bigger chip on their shoulder? Is it South Australians or West Australians?

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474.219 - 488.008 Tim Watson

No, I love both, Seth. I'm not going to... You know what I've got ahead of me in the next few weeks? I'm not getting involved in any fights, Tim. It's just not on my bingo card. Neil's in Eltona Meadows. Go, Nilo.

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Hello, guys. Hey, Gaz, these guys over in Perth, they don't realise how hard you find it travelling as well. Because I bet you Freo don't find hair in their showers or anything like that, like you cop in Queensland.

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504.495 - 506.879 Tim Watson

Exactly. That's a good point, Nilo. Good point.

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And dirty carpet too.

507.86 - 512.688 Tim Watson

They even had the shower and the bath. That's how hard, that's how difficult it was for me on that particular trip.

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Done well.

514.631 - 536.743 Tim Watson

Good on you, mate. Appreciate it. Sam Mitchell, there is concern off the temper text. I don't know whether I should read this out. Jack Gunston's – so some people are worrying whether Jack Gunston's foot injury is worse than maybe he was first thought. And at his age, what's that mean for his career? This is Sammy Mitchell yesterday.

Chapter 7: What challenges do AFL players face with travel?

536.842 - 556.048 Sam Mitchell

Same thing, he just trained on Monday and we suspected that he would pull up fine and train today but you'll see him not out there today and unfortunately he just isn't pulled up as well as we'd like so we just need to continue to reassess. So I left it with the medical team but they've ruled him out already so I thought I'd give you a little snippet today.

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556.028 - 576.228 Tim Watson

Little snippet. So no Jack Gunston tomorrow night. Tom Barris is coming back for the Hawks. He's really important. I haven't got any more information. I do know that when he got injured at that time that they were committed to a bit of a lengthy spell as opposed to a short-termer. But I don't know anything more than that, whether it's long-term. You'd be a little concerned if he... Yep.

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576.689 - 582.334 Garry Lyon

How serious is it to their chances of being able to compete for this year's flag if he wasn't to play again this year, Jack Gunston?

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582.355 - 584.837 Tim Watson

I don't think they could win it without him. Really? No.

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585.188 - 587.051 Garry Lyon

You think he's that important now to them?

587.171 - 609.502 Tim Watson

Yeah, I don't think that. But you know what I think about Jack Gunston. I think they can contend. I think they're a very good side. I think their midfield is the question. I've had a look at this for tomorrow. But they... Yeah, well, Lewis played well in his absence. Like, his game elevated in his absence. And Mabuchal wasn't there as well, but... I think they'd be light on.

609.782 - 615.768 Tim Watson

I think they'd be one light. I still think they might be one light for winning the premiership, but I don't think they could do it without Jack Gunston. What do you think?

617.07 - 619.432 Garry Lyon

No, I still think they can. No, I think they can.

Chapter 8: What insights can we gain from the latest AFL match previews?

619.593 - 634.669 Garry Lyon

They've got to get their skates on, though, because they haven't been able to consistently perform at the higher levels that we saw them, at the best that we saw of them last year. I don't think we've seen enough of that this season, so they've got to correct that, and they've got a tough –

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634.649 - 640.593 Garry Lyon

game this weekend, but they need to get rolling and they need to start to build a little bit of momentum in the way they play.

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640.673 - 658.518 Tim Watson

Hey, the boys last night, the Simo and Horse, who I love working with, they... It might have been Simmer who has floated it, kind of. Or ask the question, there's no Bailey Smith playing, right? And then there's no Tom Stewart who's, again, out with concussion. And he's kind of saying, well, this is what Geelong do a little bit.

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658.579 - 668.436 Tim Watson

You know, they've got an eye maybe to playing them a bit later in the year or maybe in a final, so keep their powder dry a bit. Do you subscribe? I'm paraphrasing. Do you subscribe to that?

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668.804 - 686.671 Garry Lyon

Uh, about keeping your powder dry. Well, maybe. About revealing too much. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. And I think that's been something that clubs have tried to keep. to themselves for a period of time before they revealed too much about it. So, yeah, no, I do subscribe to that theory.

688.253 - 702.493 Garry Lyon

Yeah, Damien Hardwick, obviously there'd been a story Tom Morris had run with this early in the week on the agendas about there being a little bit of angst between Hardwick coaches, players, back and forth. This is what Damien Hardwick had to say about this yesterday.

702.513 - 717.876 Damien Hardwick

I think we sort of tend to jump on issues and make, what's the old saying? Mountains out of molehills. Pretty easy. These stories tend to stem around, I reckon, when all of a sudden people think there's a little bit of an issue. There's no issue. So from our point of view, it's a non-event.

717.957 - 736.206 Damien Hardwick

It's something that is, I don't know, in Melbourne or whatever it is, but sources and all these sort of things for me, we just move on pretty quickly. We have big boy conversations, no doubt about that, and we're all on the same page. The fact of the matter is, in team meetings, in reviews, you sort of sit there and provide clarity for the players and you walk out of line.

736.186 - 753.484 Tim Watson

If you have an argument with a player, not an argument, if you have a strong debate with a player and it's animated, is that a cause for, if you have three or four of those and players have three or four with their own teammates about it all, but it's proactive and it's constructive, is that cause for concern?

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