Questions Without Notice - McRae's comments, Essendon and Tassie coaching race (14.07.26)

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Tom Morris 0:00

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Craig McRae 0:39

Gerard, I honestly haven't spoken about this ever. I've just let it be out there for the narrative of being written about me or about that quote. But that was never my agenda or my philosophy. That was something that was happening in the background through a trade period that, you know, funnily enough, Justin Lepage asked me to say that publicly so then it would support a trade. But that's so far from my philosophy or my want. If anything, I'm probably more balanced and...

Tom Morris 1:06

You need to probably explain exactly what it was.

Craig McRae 1:08

I will.

Tom Morris 1:08

It did have Gerard Whateley's question in, which was the players not picks quote from Craig McRae a couple of years ago. Give me players not picks. Give me players not picks. Right. Was that true to Craig McRae's philosophy or was that the club philosophy or otherwise? And fly is saying just there, Justin Lepage asked him to say it. I think it was around the Dan Houston trade a couple of years ago. What do you make of that?

Garry Lyon 1:29

Well, I guess if he – I don't think there's anything wrong with correcting what somebody – like a narrative that's out there that people keep repeating. And like you said, that's the first time I've ever answered this question, but I've allowed it to be out there. But I'll just correct you on that point. Like I don't know that he's – I don't know that Justin Lepage is going to be upset or disappointed with that because that's what happens around trade time. Like there are conversations that go on all around that with clubs trying to do deals.

Did Craig McRae really say 'players not picks' and why did he later explain it?

Tom Morris 1:56

Yeah, what about the public nature of the trade times? So Justin Lepich, according to Fly or Craig McRae, tells McRae we need to have this public messaging. And so McRae says that publicly. That's more – it's the PR around the trades.

Garry Lyon 2:12

That's right. But you're operating for your football club, aren't you? You are, yeah. So your ultimate master is getting – The best deal you possibly can for your football club. And they're both employed by Collingwood and that's their job. Yeah. To get whoever they can through the door.

Tom Morris 2:24

It's like Port Adelaide know that they're trading Dan Houston because he wants to go. And they're saying, no, we're not going to trade you publicly because you're a contracted player. But privately they're saying, yeah, Dan, we'll look at trades. We'll talk to Collingwood, talk to Melbourne, talk to other clubs. There's this- You know it goes on all the time. It goes on all the time. Both ways. But what I can't understand is we all know it goes on, so why do people still do it? Why do clubs still do it? Why do clubs still pretend that they're a contracted player and they're not going anywhere, even though everyone knows they are going to be able to trade them?

Garry Lyon 2:54

Because they don't necessarily want to do the negotiation through the media. That's true, but they go the other way. Yeah, that's right. Well, they try and put everybody off the scent, say, okay, there's nothing to see here. As you know, there are many, many stories around – particularly even in the last 12 months of players that were going to go somewhere and then there might have been a phone call even with somebody in their car on their way down there to sign all the papers and do all the paperwork and somebody's decided to change their mind. It can happen quickly. It happens very, very quickly. It's a crazy time of the year.

Was Justin Lepage asked to push a public trade narrative for Collingwood?

Tom Morris 3:27

Adrian's in Hawthorne. G'day, Adrian.

Unknown 3:29

Good morning, guys. Just to put some context around McRae's comments, when he was on the Hamish McLaughlin show Unfiltered last year, he mentioned that the reason he said it is because Gold Coast were offering a third or fourth round pick for John Noble and Collingwood wanted players and that was part of the Dan Houston deal and that's what triggered him making that comment.