"The stupidity of his action – my mind is boggled" - Lachie Neale Suspension (22.09.26)
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What is the opening banter and why do they call Gary the “hanging judge”?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim. Great to
have you with us. Uh Gary's the hanging judge. Give it a rest. Everyone thinks Neil should play. Uh it's getting annoying, you devil. If he misses, the AFL just wants to even things up and help get Freo up. Uh reeks of it. Frank go lines. Well no, Frank, I'm looking at the Herald Sun here. They've done a five uh jury panel uh and it's four one that he shouldn't play. So it's not just me. I I think let me just say this. Right. Um I had a look at it just then. It was up on the news, on the Fox News. I agree. You can't tell if it's a clench fist. So I absolutely agree with that. I think that the stupidity of his actions to be doing this behind the play in a preliminary final is just that uh like a my mind is boggled.
But if you can't determine it's a clench fist, then I agree it's really hard to prosecute, so that'll be part of the defence. And even if they do give him the weak, I think the compelling and exceptional circumstance can get him off.
How do the hosts describe the tribunal’s four‑one decision on Lachie Neale’s suspension?
So that's where I sit on it, Frank. I d I don't um back away from the fact that he he put himself in this position on the back of just a stupid act. He was frustrated clearly He went up to Guinnavan behind the play and he strikes him in in the middle, whether it's with a clenched fist or not. Guinevan goes down and now he's he's f fighting for his life to play in the grand final. He's got no one to blame but himself.
Correct. This is what Craig McCray had to say.
Um look I I I'd only seen the grainy footage and That's all there is. Yeah, well if that's if that's all there is, yeah, I'd I'd like to think he's got a case then because Yeah, that footage is pretty pretty grainy and far away. Um it's hard to see the the uh the detail of the impact and things but um If that's all there is, just to see how it goes. Given
the magnitude of the game and a grand file that he would miss, do you think in any of the penalties and suspensions around this time of year that should be taken into consideration?
Well Not unless you determine that before the season starts, Tim. So no. Right now no. But if you want to start next year and say, Listen, we've got a set of rules for the twenty four home and away games but we think there's a um Um loading on the fact that there's a first final, second final, prelim and a grand final? Okay, well tell us.
Why is the grainy footage of the incident considered a problem for the case?
But don't just make it up on the go on the run and say, oh no, well this is a grand final, we can't have you missing a grand final for that. No. I d I don't
But do you not think for ever in a day that's been the case? Do you think there's been a consideration along those lines? Yeah, I do. Historically. Yeah, or Barry Hall. Yeah I do too. Barry Hall's the greatest example of all. Well y but did they did they He got off was that about Yeah, but was that around le d did he get off on a uh a a legal technicality or what did he get off on? I can't remember exactly what it was back in the day.
We'll find out exactly how how he got off on appeal for that, but uh it was quite staggering. Uh the exemplary uh compelling and exemplary circumstances, I'm not
sure Chris Scott's a big fan of that. I I don't I don't like it. I mean seriously. When when we're starting to say, Oh no, there's a rule for you because you've done um good things for the game, it's it's almost implying that other people haven't done uh a good job. So
he doesn't like it. I love talk talking to Chris Scott. So he he th the I don't think he's inferring that you know the the good it's a good bloke cause, which people again, Jared's pointed out is not the case. It's not just 'cause you're a good bloke, it's because you've played three hundred and twenty games a foot and you've never been suspended. So on that basis I can I'm not I won't be having a problem if they let Lockheed Neil off. That's a pretty fair record, isn't it?
Yeah, that is a fair record.
What past AFL cases (Barry Hall, Trent Cotchin, etc.) are used as precedent for “compelling and exceptional circumstances”?
Barry Hall free to play uh in two thousand and five after being cleared to play by the AFL Tribunal. His defence team successfully argued that his striking charge against Matt McGuire be downgraded, allowing the uh spearhead to avoid suspension.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the opening banter and why do they call Gary the “hanging judge”?
0:00–1:00
2
How do the hosts describe the tribunal’s four‑one decision on Lachie Neale’s suspension?
1:00–2:18
3
Why is the grainy footage of the incident considered a problem for the case?
2:18–3:41
4
What past AFL cases (Barry Hall, Trent Cotchin, etc.) are used as precedent for “compelling and exceptional circumstances”?
3:41–5:17
5
How are the upcoming Grand Final selection dilemmas (Ainsworth, Gallop, Gardner) influencing the discussion?
5:17–6:19
6
Do the hosts think Lachie Neale’s clean record and fines affect his chance of a suspension exemption?
6:19–7:33
7
What impact could a “monumental disaster” have on the AFL if Neale misses the Grand Final?
7:33–8:52
8
How do the hosts wrap up the debate and what are their final predictions for the tribunal’s ruling?
8:52–10:08
Speakers
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