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Chapter 1: What recent news did Tom Morris break about Michael Voss?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim. You know, I don't coach for my job. I coach for building a culture and, you know, hopefully by the time I leave here, you know, we've got winning behaviours and I understand clearly what that looks like.
He knows, he's a realist, that our performance needs to get better and he's working really hard to get that done and I give him great credit for his want to make our team better. Uh... Well, we're a results-based industry, so naturally if you continue to lose games, Gerard, I would say that there's changes would have to be made
uh in in some way what that looks like is is not up to me um so we'll just focus on on what is next and i've mentioned it it's boring but um brisbane's up next they're a quality side that are doing some very good things at the moment but um it'll be a hell of a way to uh turn things around there's nothing more frustrating when you see a response and you go do it did i have to do that to get this response is that where we're at i'm the one pushing these buttons when are
Okay, so that was Michael Voss in his press conference post the Brisbane game. Chris Davies, the footy manager on 3RW. Jacob Wiedering was with Gerard and Adam Simpson with Gerard as well. Tom Morris this morning reporting that Michael Voss has resigned as the coach of the Carlton Football Club into his fifth year. And Tom's in the studio with us. Newsbreakers, news people, they don't...
live for these moments, but when they present themselves and you break it first, you deserve the congratulations. So I know that's small.
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Chapter 2: How does Michael Voss view the current performance of the Carlton Football Club?
It doesn't help Michael Voss or the Carlton Footy Club, but well done.
No, thank you, Gaz. I appreciate it, Tim. It's good to be with you again. Coach sacking days or coach departure days are always different, aren't they? Because it's the biggest news in footy for that day, regardless of who gets it and where it is.
And even though we all believe that Michael Voss' time was probably done towards the end of the year, the fact that it's round 10 is very early on historical... I think Leon Cameron was about round eight. Rarely it's before the bye.
But what it does, it speaks to the fact that he's out of contract, the writing was on the wall, they'd won one game, and there was no future for him at the club beyond this year.
Yeah, and the other thing is, is once you have made up your mind as a club, then you must make the decision. If you can't make up your mind and go, yeah, he's not going to coach us beyond this year, and then go, but let's just pat him out for the next three, four weeks. That's unfair on Vos. It's unfair on everyone.
Because he's handled, as I said earlier, he's handled himself really, really well under enormous pressure.
How much of this has been brought on in any way by the fact that even Caro had the story last night that Kenny's now moved into maybe favouritism to take the Tassie job. And there are clubs like Carlton who are going to make a change, but they don't want to be left at the altar. At the altar and not necessarily get their first choice. How do you rationalise that?
I think that's a tiny percentage, if at all, because I think the main thing here is, as Gaz said, they knew Voss wasn't the guy going forward and he knew he wasn't the guy going forward. It would be very interesting to know what Essendon are thinking this morning or what Tasmania are thinking this morning now that there's a vacancy and whether that changes their plans.
But no, I don't think on this occasion it plays into it too much.
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Chapter 3: What reasons are given for Michael Voss's resignation as Carlton's coach?
And they had a lot of candidates for that. They did. And I spoke to somebody who was part of that, very much part of that. And they said in their minds, Michael Voss was the best candidate that was interviewed during that process. Yeah.
I think at the time they needed someone, an iconic figure to set the club straight culturally. You don't agree with that? And so Voss was that personality and that leader. He wasn't that coach, but he was that leader.
Yeah, no, I think there was, I think, I don't know how, I don't know how strongly that element played into it. I think that they had an exhaustive process and they interviewed a number of candidates. Adam Kingsley missed out. Some of them, yeah, he missed out. And I know June Siracusa was one of them as well.
So there was a number of people, but they thought at that time, and given where he'd been, he'd been, you know, officer at Port Adelaide, he'd been running the cultural part of it as well. And they actually thought that, okay, second time around, this bloke's going to be even better than first time around because he's got more of a rounded approach to it now.
Yeah. And the other one was Ross Lyon last time. Remember they wanted Ross Lyon and then that was, that was a gazumped at board level because of some alleged incidents over in Perth. And so that's, that tells me that, you know, Voss was their second choice last time anyway, because Ross Lyon had the gig if it just got through that last stage, which of course it didn't.
Aaron and Paul, who think we're not paying any respect to Michael. Our first reaction, you must have been listening earlier on, was to acknowledge Michael Voss. And I think we did that for about three minutes. So you mightn't have heard that. And now we're moving on to the next part of the phase, which is who's going to coach the footy club.
Yeah, and Chris Davies said it recently, as I said to you, Michael Voss is a realist. He's a big boy, and he doesn't leave the club with his reputation in tatters. Not at all. People love Michael Voss.
He's an icon, and he proved with the Elijah Holland situation what a fantastic leader he is, but he's just not the right coach for this moment, and they are two slightly different things, I think, as you guys would appreciate.
Well, the three certainties are life, death, taxes, and if you coach, you're going to get the sack one day. So that's what happens.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Voss's departure for Carlton's future?
I'll do what I need to do. I'll maybe go to games. I'll sit in a box. Maybe I'll sit in the stand, whatever, and not officially take over till 27. Because it's such an early vacancy, is that a possibility?
Yeah.
Well, yes, it is a possibility. But what about the alternative that you appoint someone and they come in and actually coach the last couple of games?
But this is my point. I don't think there's much to be gained from that. They'd be on a bit of a hiding to nothing, I think. Whereas if they view it... That could dilute the impact of somebody coming in and coaching. No, no. Listen, I'm coming and I'm going to come hard at pre-season on October the 1st or whatever.
But be aware that I'm just sitting back here for the next six weeks and I'm watching every single part of what's going on.
That might rule out a few blokes, though, too, because if you were looking at somebody that currently is employed by... I don't know if it had happened. No, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but you might rule out others that are currently being employed by other football clubs as an assistant coach somewhere.
Yeah, so the only reference point we have for an early sacking like this or a coach departure is Leon Cameron at the Giants in 2022. And Adam Kingsley was announced the day or two days after the Giants season finished. Yeah, they waited. So they waited.
Who coached the rest of that year for the...
It was McVeigh, wasn't it? Spike McVeigh. Spike McVeigh, yeah, who's now at the Swans. So that's the only reference point we have there. But Carlton gets a run at it. And I think it's still a pretty attractive job, albeit laced with some risk because every coach that's gone there in the last 15 or 20 years has been chewed up and spat out.
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Chapter 5: Which candidates are being considered for the coaching position at Carlton?
I think as well with Josh Fraser, it gives him the opportunity to sell himself as the next Stephen King. So, okay, if it's not going to be at Carlton, which I think is probably unlikely because the interim coach rarely takes over, although David Teague did, then how can he set himself up to be the next coach somewhere else if a vacancy comes up? And that gives him a run at it, doesn't it?
Well, Ruckman, flavour of the month at the moment. You've got Cox doing particularly well up there in Sydney. You've got King at Melbourne doing a good job. What about this name? Danny Daly. His name keeps surfacing.
Danny Daly's a highly regarded football figure. He's a fantastic football player.
Do you think he's on some sort of succession plan promise there at the Brisbane Lions, though?
Not that I'm aware of, but I've wondered that for a while, Tim, because they love him. And he's a really highly regarded football person as the footy boss of the Lions. And I think he still harbours some aspirations to coach. Yeah, I don't think he's put it away.
That's what makes me think that... Because I know there have been clubs out there that have been very keen to talk to him.
He's a brilliant football person. Like, understands... Every aspect of the game, every aspect of club land. Now, whether that transfers into a senior coaching role, you'd never really know, but I don't think the Chris Fagan experience is going to work against him.
No, but also the David Noble experience probably works against him a bit, who was the footy boss and then went to North Melbourne. So I think Danny Daly would be a great senior coach, but what would I know? I mean, I just think he's an excellent person who has the respect of everyone in the football world.
Luke Hodge, is it possible that somebody like a Luke Hodge who hasn't put himself out there to be a coach, but I listen to him with Gerard, and he makes a lot of sense, and he speaks the language, I think, of the player as well. I think he's a very good communicator, and he's a great leader. He's got this charisma about him as an individual.
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Chapter 6: How has Carlton's coaching history influenced their current situation?
Isn't that why Graham Wright was there? Therefore, haven't they already made the moves already that they want to make and put whatever they have in place now as part of it? I mean, they're not actually starting their rebuild today because they've got this news about Michael Voss. I mean, that's already begun. They've won one game though, haven't they? I know.
I think whoever this person is has got two years to do exactly that, is go as hard as they want on reshaping this club. reshaping this list. And blow it up. Introducing the Cody Walkers and whoever else. They're coming through though. They're in the pipeline. Yeah, that's right. But take as many of the draft picks as you possibly can until Tasmania get a moratorium on them.
I think there's a little window still for you.
I don't reckon the coach has that. I don't reckon he's been given that. That's from the club, I think. I reckon the club's already said, okay, this is the direction we're heading. We now need another coach now to finish off the group of players that we've got and complement what we've already started to do.
Chapter 7: What factors should Carlton consider in their search for a new coach?
All right, we'll take a break. Tommy Morris is in the studio. He's got other stuff to talk about as well. But as to be expected, the biggest story today will be Michael Voss resigning as a Carlton coach.