Where to now for Carlton? | Garry & Tim's thoughts (13.05.26)
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim.
In this hour, Tom Papley from the Sydney Swans will join us after the 8.30 news, but from now until then, we can dedicate our show to whatever you like. We haven't really ripped into the Carlton stuff. It went all day yesterday, but you can do it now. Unfortunately, the temper text machine's down, which has been down all morning. It's kind of... No, no, I don't like it, because I like to monitor what's happening and whether it's resonating, but I have enjoyed not being abused this morning. You never get a... Oh, we copped the odd one that just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. I quite enjoy seeing where the attitudes are at.
extraordinarily, the last text that we received this morning, I don't know whether you shut it down after this or not, was great story with Brownie last night. Gary, well done. That's from Mac down there in Tassie.
What led to Michael Voss's departure from Carlton?
It was a great, it was powerful. It was emotional. It was illuminating. It was raw. It was all those things. And the great thing about it all is that John O'Brown is on the mend.
Yeah, and Liam sent this. I wanted to mention this. He said he enjoyed last night. My wife and I were in tears. I've been through it similar with my mum two months ago. So Liam, hopefully it gave you a bit of peace there last night. Righto, let's have a listen. This was Michael Voss. He did the interview with AFL media, Damien Barrett. The reason why he decided to confront the situation and step down as coach of Carlton.
It was on shaky ground and the inevitable was starting to become clearer. But the fighter in you and the competitor in you wants to, you know, take that as far as you possibly can. But no, look, I think during the week last week was the first time I just sort of sat with a result week before and thought about where the group was at, where the club currently was, and maybe where they needed to go. And just when thinking about that more deeply and reflecting on that, I felt like it was time to elevate those conversations.
So he sat down with his manager, Peter Blucher, on Thursday, had the discussion, and then with Chris Davies, he's up in Brisbane, ready to coach Friday night, calls Chris Davies into or down to the lobby, sits down, has a coffee and says, nah, this is it. Did you find that process a little different than what you thought would happen? Like you make the decision to resign on the day that you're going to coach your last game?
No, I don't think it's a snap decision. I think it's a build-up over a period of time.
There's no right or wrong, but I just found it strange that you told him on the day of the game. Maybe you've told it early in the week and said, look, I'll coach this Friday and that'll be it. But at lunchtime on the day of the game, I found it a little unusual. There's no right or wrong.
Yeah, I guess when you're talking about emotion and things coming to a head, these things can... just happen you know as a consequence of a conversation or whatever he obviously had been mulling it over for a period of time and thought okay well now's as good a time as any like if I'm feeling this way then I'm not in the right mental state to be leading this organisation anymore but I'm starting to doubt myself at the same time because I know you're doubting me I think it was I'm happy for Michael Voss because it was going nowhere everyone in the footy world knew that it was going nowhere so
We spoke about this. I mean, imagine him waking up today. You're a better place to talk about this than me. You've coached. You've stood down. And what was it like once you make the ultimate decision, having been all coaches who resign or get sacked have been under enormous pressure?
Yeah.
Well, there's that fear of the unknown too because in life, you've got to move on. So you've got to do something. I don't know. You and I talked about this on the podcast about whether or not Michael Voss wants to stay in footy, whether he wants to move on, whether he wants to go to the media, what opportunities are out there. You get a period of time.
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